Who is breeding this year?

[justdoit]

We are breeding 2 mares this year, we breed to sell and after
looking at our results/costs over the last couple of years have decided to cut back by 80%.
The mares we are breeding can (fingers crossed) produce offspring that will bring a return
great enough to justify the risk(fingers crossed again).

Anyone else breeding this year?


I have a permanent position vacant for a night watchperson/ security guard, pays good, good condititions, staying awake is a must(unlike the last chap), police check, references, start ASAP. Melbourne Victoria.

Ex NSW stewards need not apply.

[eliteblood]

Are you cutting back from 10 to 2 ?

[justdoit]

Yes we are Eliteblood, we also have a 4 year old mare that will be bred next year when she comes off the turf:)

We have already sold 2 to QLD, 1 up the road and will keep the others for another year.

[triplev123]

We are breeding 2 mares this year, we breed to sell and after
looking at our results/costs over the last couple of years have decided to cut back by 80%.
The mares we are breeding can (fingers crossed) produce offspring that will bring a return
great enough to justify the risk(fingers crossed again).

Anyone else breeding this year?


[VVV] In this neck of the woods there'll be only 3 this time around (back from 8 or 9) and it'll be steady at that for the foreseeable future. HRA & State admin. crews Australia wide would no doubt think otherwise of course...clearly they want numbers, numbers, numbers...but in the end they don't have to pay the up-keep for them all and for their subsequent raising to point of sale or beyond that, training & racing. $ for $ & purely from our own perspective, cutting back the numbers...I don't think it's a bad thing. We'll be much better off just breeding from 3 really good proven commercial broodmares/broodmare prospects that'll leave us very saleable commodities should we choose to continue down that road...as opposed to breeding the 3 aforementioned along with a support crew of 2 or 3 handy enough ones plus the obligatory passengers that we will all pick up along the way.

[Love Of Courage]

I would like to breed a few this year but QLD is not the best place to breed and sell. I have 6 broodmares and may actually not breed with any of them this year. If I was to find a Stud Farm willing to negotiate better than normal terms as far as payments goes I would consider breeding a few or all of them as I love watching the babies grow.

Anyone know if any of the studs would be willing to discuss options ?

[eliteblood]

Not looking good for foal numbers in 2012 Mightymo !!!
I will be breeding 6 mares this year. Likely stallions are SBSW, RNR Heaven, Art Major and Mach Three.

[mightymo]

but its not a problem we need to address Trevor...

[triplev123]

In the coming season, one where there are clearly more high profile sires available than ever before, it's my very distinct gut feeling that here in Oz less mares will be bred than were last season and I think it could be as high as 10% overall.
Add that reduction to the rather atrocious mares served to live foals produced tale that's being told by the most recent (but by no means the final) figures for 2010/11 & it looks pretty ordinary.
That being said, I'm a great believer in the dictates of free market forces and all this is no more nor is it any less than a Standardbred Breeding manifestation thereof.

2009/10 vs 2010/11 Head to Head.

2009/10- 8,415 services
2010/11- 8,203 services

2009/10- 5,197 live foals
2010/11- 5,079 live foals

2009/10- 11 mares died at birth
2010/11- 11 mares died at birth

2009/10- 649 mares slipped
2010/11- 592 mares slipped

2009/10- 1,905 mares missed
2010/11- 1,340 mares missed

2009/10- 325 foals died
2010/11- 319 foals died

2009/10- 117 mares died
2010/11- 129 mares died

2009/10- 211 no returns
2010/11 -733 no returns (season's totals not yet completely allocated)


For the 2010/11 season the latest available figures show 8,203 services performed & they have resulted in just 5,079 live foals or 61.9%.
This represents an ever so slight increase of 0.16% over 2009/2010's all-time low of 61.74%.
Of course, depending on where those 733 current no returns are ultimately allocated, a very slender margin such as that could disappear in the blink of an eye.
My guess is by the end of counting for 2010/11 most of the 733 will end up as being zero foal results in one way or another. I think we'll be lucky to top 61.0%.
The fact that basically 4 in every 10 services performed ends up a complete waste of time should send shockwaves through the Industry, IMO.
If my figures are correct then it appears that the gap between Sires getting mares In-foal and those mares going on to produce live foals is heading the wrong way, up from a tick over 12% in 2009/10 to a decidedly worrying 14% in 2010/11.
In keeping with the above, taking into account the NON STALLION related aspects of 2010/11 (which are currently still in place & clouding up things but are very soon to vaporise...YAHOO!) and the National Sires Fertility Figures compare thus...
2009/10- 73.94% Final.
2010/11- 74.72% & counting.

[eliteblood]

I have a problem with referring to live foal percentages as "sires fertility figures".
The stallion has no input into mares dying, foals dying, mares slipping, etc. so why do we persist in calling it sires fertility figures.

[Flashing Red]

3 mares. Rocknroll Heaven, Bettors Delight and a toss up between Rocknroll Hanover & Art Major.

[justdoit]

Love Of Courage,
Foal shares, deferred payments, anything is possible, can anyone else here help with which stallions are highly fertile for example Bettors Delight, Art Major. These horses are printing money faster than the US Government and only being limited by their semen numbers. IMO with your 6 mares a deal with these sought of high end sires is assured.

TripleV123, Can you post those same figures for individual sires?

[mightymo]

Based on my last 2 years breedings, i have found the following all to be very fertile:

Art Major, Bettors Delight, Four Starzzz Shark, Major in Art, Sportswriter and GFETE

On the other hand, history and my own experience says Direct Scooter line stallions are much less fertile.

[justdoit]

eliteblood,
"I have a problem with referring to live foal percentages as "sires fertility figures".
The stallion has no input into mares dying, foals dying, mares slipping, etc. so why do we persist in calling it sires fertility figures."
I agree with you on this , but have always thought that a sires ability to produce the end product(race horses/horses on the track)
is a good gauge of his fertility success.

[aussiebreno]

but its not a problem we need to address Trevor...

Lol. I say we kill all Jews.

Now we only need one more person to come in and say we need to kill all Jews and its makes it fact that we need to kill all Jews.

[triplev123]

I have a problem with referring to live foal percentages as "sires fertility figures".
The stallion has no input into mares dying, foals dying, mares slipping, etc. so why do we persist in calling it sires fertility figures.


[VVV] Indeed. See the top of Page 8 on the recent Breeding Panel Report for my pride and joy in that regard. :cool:

[triplev123]

Love Of Courage,
Foal shares, deferred payments, anything is possible, can anyone else here help with which stallions are highly fertile for example Bettors Delight, Art Major. These horses are printing money faster than the US Government and only being limited by their semen numbers. IMO with your 6 mares a deal with these sought of high end sires is assured.

TripleV123, Can you post those same figures for individual sires?


[VVV] Will attempt to do so as soon as Mrs. Triple is fed & watered ( or rather Vino-ed):rolleyes:

[mango]

Hi Breno

I havn't noticed you sending a mare to Pass The Mustard lmao.

[aussiebreno]

Hi Breno

I havn't noticed you sending a mare to Pass The Mustard lmao.
Hehehe; it wasn't Pass The Mustard himself; just horses in that price tag. Although here is a tip for you; Friday night @ Melton Rc 1 Amadmanscomeundone!

[Love Of Courage]

Hello All,

Great posts as usual. I would like to applaud Mightymo for his time and effort to encourage breeders to breed more foals, or at least maintain numbers. He has copped a bit of Flak but certainly encouraged some healthy debate.

For me personally I do not wish for a handout to help me breed my horses which I love. I would prefer studs are encouraged to assist breeders by implementing a few more financial arrangements such as pay on live foal. With foaling costs, insemination costs and 42 day postive payments if you are breeding 6 - 8 mares to some good stallions the bills can soon mount up, especially after a few years of low yearling sale prices.

Regards,

LOC

[justdoit]

LOC,
They will do pay on live foal and deferred payment.
Art Major, Major in Art, Sportswriter and GFETE - John Coffey 03 585 922 01 He is your only chance.

Bettors Delight - call Australian based booking agent Nathan Varcoe
Mobile 0410 761 111
Fax 02 9686 1499
Email woodlands.aus@bigpond.com.au

Four Starzzz Shark -Peter O’Rourke - General Manager 0274 346 401 Australia free phone 1800 150 855 They all have to get his approval, go direct and you will be pleasantly surprised.

[triplev123]

Hey LOC,

May I suggest that you talk to the crew that own & raced Threepence.
As I recall they had a very, very effective approach worked out that got them Pay On Live Foal terms nearly every single time. A dear old soul she was...butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

[doubled123]

i think if you own a mare as a good as threepence you'd be telling the studmaster how much you'll be paying as well!

[triplev123]

I forgot to put :p:p:p after that post.

[Don Corleone]

Not breeding at all this year. I have given my three mares to friends who will breed. One to American Ideal, one to Santana Blue Chip and the other to Changeover....................I myself are buying at the ready to run and or the yearling sales.