US Broodmare Sales

[Love Of Courage]

Hello Hello,

I live in Australia and am interested in purchasing a nicely bred broodmare to bring over here. Could someone please let me know which are the best broodmare sales to attend in the US.

Regards,

Sue

[justdoit]

Hi Sue,
Standardbred Horse Sales Company http://www.theblackbook.com/index.html
Murray M. Brown General Manager, Vice President his contact- mbrown@hanoverpa.com
He is a good guy and will help you out as much as he can.

[mango]

Hi Sue
There's a yearling going through the melbourne sunday sale lot 239 it's all american blood and i think it would be worth a look.

[buster]

9 foals for no decent horses?

seems an expensive way to buy a mare with transport unless your going to spend 100k on the mare

[mango]

Its already in Australia so know big transport costs, mare has since had another winner in 56 and one of her daughters has had one in 59 and won $75,000 in n.z and another who is a 2yr old in n.z has had 3 starts for a win in 57.9 and a place which is not on the sale page.

[buster]

hunter franco has been a nice producer so far, heard they knocked back 200k for franco hemmingway
hasana franco is pretty average horse, won at menangle so fast time is assured

transport costs were the mare coming from the us to here

[mango]

Its a yearling in the Melbourne sunday sale lot 239 go to apgold.com.au and watch her video looks like a big filly.

[BenScadden]

I'd recommend heading to Harrisburg ... but you'll have to wait until November. I'd also say it's worth the plane flight over there to make your own assessments.
In my opinion, it's a false economy to buy a mare that's very well bred but poorly conformed.

[mango]

Hi Ben
Just a question are you saying the yearling i mentioned is poorly conformed and since the video of the apg yearlings have gone online has the interest in your yearling picked up.

[buster]

what if a poorly conformed mare was well bred because she was a good horse and has thrown good horses despite conformation?

ie, i have a small mare and she has thrown small horses but have had big motors

[BenScadden]

Hey Mango, no, I wasn't talking about that filly. She looks OK at a first glance. I couldn't comment on her conformation off a video ... I'd need to see her in the flesh to pass judgement on that (and even then it's only my opinion).
I was referring to the first post about buying a broodmare. I'd never buy one sight unseen, even if it was on the other side of the world. I just think the conformation of a mare is very important.
As for our yearling, interest in him seems to have been quite good ... but it's hard to know if that's because of the video. And there are always plenty of tyre-kickers who have no intention of buying. Sale day is judgement day.
And buster, I don't equate size to poor conformation ... I was talking more about a mare that might be offset at the knee, bad hocks, etc. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule ... but I think you're putting the odds in your favour if you have a mare that is 'correct'.

[jammsb]

So much depends on your budget. To me it doesn't make much sense to buy a $10,000 mare and then have to spend more than her purchase price to ship her down under. From my experience the best buys in the US marketplace today are well bred yearling fillies out of well producing mares who have some age on them, but have been excellent producers themselves. Not all of the fillies fall into this category, but there are some. I'm still kicking myself for not buying a filly that Hanover Shoe Farms sold at Harrisburg last Fall. She was a Rocknroll Hanover filly out of the top producing mare Sandlark Hanover. I looked at her and thought she was a very nice filly with more than adequate conformation. I then changed my mind and decided I would instead focus on trotting fillies. I wasn't around when this particular filly sold. She brought the incredibly low price of $7,000. When I looked at her I felt that she would be a great bargain at $20,000 or maybe more. I'm still kicking myself because I feel that even in a depressed market, she will always be worth more than the price she brought.

[Love Of Courage]

Hello and thank you all for the replies !

Justdoit : I had hoped to attend the Harrisburg Sale last year but was unable to attend due to work commitments. I think that this is the best sale to attend but was hoping to find others.

Jammsb : Nice post and may be an option to buy a filly instead of broodmare.I have attached links to the filly you mentioned.




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Sealark Hanover (Yearlings) b f Rocknroll Hanover-Sandlark Hanover


VAN OTTERLOO STABLES ROCK VALLEY, IA


HANOVER SHOE FARMS, INC.


$7,000


www.theblackbook.com/2010pdfs/Yearlings/Sandlark%20Hanover.pdf (http://www.theblackbook.com/2010pdfs/Yearlings/Sandlark%20Hanover.pdf) for the pedigree.

www.hanoverpa.com/images/video/2009/5G9979.html (http://www.hanoverpa.com/images/video/2009/5G9979.html) For the video.

Agree the cost I have been quoted to get mare into Australia $ 20,000 so would need the right filly or mare. However where in Australia or New Zealand can you get access to fillies or mares by these stallions. Western Ideal, RockNRoll Hanover, Artsplace ( The exception ! ) The Panderosa, Western Hanover etc. Or even some of the best trotting stallions if you breed trotters.

Regards,

Sue

[buster]

i think if you can get a commerical mare, even if shes say 10 0r 12 thats thrown a handy horse and in foal to western ideal, rock n roll etc its definitely worth a shot...even if you have to wait 24 months to find the right one

[justdoit]

Hi Sue,
Contact the Pepper Tree stud and ask them about purchasing a RRHanover mare or filly, they should know if any in OZ for sale.
In the USA or Canada contacting the farms directly is no problem, most of them have their mares pedigrees on their websites and have mares for sale. I find it very interesting to see what sought of mares the stud farms are breeding to their stallions.
A must do is to visit the Harness Racing Museum & Hall of Fame and the Winbak stud.very cool:)
Orange County Choppers is another option if you cannot find the horse you are looking for.

[Flashing Red]

I have a Rocknroll Hanover filly (still in the USA) whose dam is a full sister to Die Laughing and she is a half sister to a Meadowlands Pace winner. She was bought in America and is still over there, she was bought as a racing/breeding prospect. I'm not sure if that is "commercial" enough, but if anyone would be interested in her, PM me :)

[buster]

i looked through some of those results of the mixed sales, some amazing numbers, anything that is out of fashion or starting to age appears to be worthless, there were mares very closely related to good stallions that stand out here and in foal to top stallions selling for 15k

[Flashing Red]

Their economy going down the gurgler has a lot to do with it...

[triplev123]

G'day Sue,

If you're looking to buy a mare there the two guys I'd get in contact with over there are...
Murray Brown, mbrown@hanoverpa.com or hofmurray@aol.com From AUS phone 0011 1- 717– 637- 8931 http://www.theblackbook.com (http://www.theblackbook.com/)
Bob Boni, Northwood Bloodstock. E-mail Nwbloodstock@aol.com From AUS phone 0011 1- 201- 863- 2082 www.northwoodbloodstock.com (http://www.northwoodbloodstock.com)
Both absolutely teriffic fellas.

[buster]

id think kiwi mares have been more successful over here, id love to get one out elsu's family