American Jewel & Romantic Moment

[triplev123]

Just received and watched a couple of Mpg replays of two American Ideal fillies qualifying at The Meadowlands, American Jewel went in 1:54 & Romantic Moment in 1:55 & a piece. VERY impressive. Jimmy Takter has got them both I believe.

[triplev123]

American Jewel wins first up in 1:52.3, 10k 2yo fillies race at The Meadowlands.

[mango]

Hey Triple

Just watched the replay, American Jewel seemed to do it so easy and it looks like J Takter and Brittany Farms have a nice filly on there hands.

[triplev123]

She's the filly I mentioned the other day, the one that qualified so impressively at The Meadowlands & the one that's bred thrice to K Nora...family over family over family. Can scoot. Looked like The Bionic Man was just along for the ride.

[mango]

Yeah there's a few people who have sent Life Sign mare's to American Ideal for that cross, even Uncle Bob.

[triplev123]

Very astute is Uncle Bob.

[mango]

When i was with him early April talking mare's/stallion's and breeding i noticed he had sent 6 mare's to him and a couple of them were Life Sign mare's. He said he really liked the stallion but also thought that the Life Sign/American Ideal cross should work really good. I suppose only time will tell.

[triplev123]

Having just returned to the land of the living by way of a shower, a couple of Neurofen and a bucket of Berocca...something has just occurred to me.
How's anyone going to reasonably apportion any success that American Ideal may have down here when he's bred to Life Sign mares as being the result of a further dose of K Nora...when American Ideal was a high speed horse that is siring the same...and Life Sign was a bit of a grinder that has similarly sired in his own image?
It could be just as easily the result of putting point to point high speed over mares by a sire who's progeny have tended to lacked exactly that.
With a lot of these things there's the ostensible reason why they're successful & then there's the actual reason. Sometimes they're not too far apart...other times they're divided by wide open expanses.

[Don Corleone]

Of the 6 yearlings I have broken in so far this season, the pick is a American Ideal out of a In The Pocket mare whose name escapes me at the moment but he was bred in the North Island. A very athletic guy whose gait will take him through the first few grades.

[mango]

Hi Don

Thanks for letting us know, if and when this horse races next year feel free to let us know so we can take a look at him. Of the top of my head and i could be wrong as it's to early to be thinking on a sunday morning but that colt would be bred on a 4x3 Direct Scooter cross, i'll duck into to work to collect my apperance fee and take a look when i get home.

[mango]

American Jewel wins first up in 1:52.3, 10k 2yo fillies race at The Meadowlands.

American Jewel win's again in 1:52.1, $12k 2yo fillies race at The Meadowlands on thursday the 14th of July.

[triplev123]

She's prepping for the 400k Sweetheart Pace in early August. I think she's another See You At Peelers. Jimmy Takter couldn't be that lucky to get back to back star fillies could he? Geeze she looked sharp.

[Don Corleone]

Just took a look at the race and yes she looked the goods.

[mightymo]

3 very nice fillies by American Ideal all trialled in 1.55 odd today. All look to be very good.

Is it just me, or at this point in time, do his fillies seem to be much better than his colts? eg Idyllic

[eliteblood]

How do you reconcile his reasonably good results in US with his slow start down here (only 1 winner in NZ to date)

[mightymo]

he didnt get a very good number or book of mares to start here.

Hes definitely had a winner in Aust, as I bred and own him - Grouse party House

I think he will do a job here. I was speaking to a breaker earlier who has 10 yearlings and says he has got 2 very nice ones both by American ideal

[mightymo]

American Promise is also a winner here

[mightymo]

actually just looked up - he has had 6 winners here from only 11 starters. The question is why only 11 starters?

[eliteblood]

NZ stats are 1 winner from 6 starters from 52 foals, 7 winners in total if you add your Australian stats to that.
It still seems to be lagging his performance to date in USA.
Maybe next season will be a better one down here.

[Greg Hando]

actually just looked up - he has had 6 winners here from only 11 starters. The question is why only 11 starters?
He only had 19 foals out here first crop 11 starter's to foals is pretty good i would think and just under 30% w/f not to bad

[eliteblood]

Where do you find that information ?

[mango]

Harness.org.au go to racing scroll down click on horse search and enter name when the horse comes up click on sire's progeny and that tells you how many starters he has had and how many winner's. But to find out how many live foals he has had you need to go to service's then click on harnessweb enter your password then the horses name and the when the horse come's up you then scroll down to service summary click on that and it tell's you he had 19 live foals in Aus his first year.

[mango]

NZ stats are 1 winner from 6 starters from 52 foals, 7 winners in total if you add your Australian stats to that.
It still seems to be lagging his performance to date in USA.
Maybe next season will be a better one down here.

Hi Eliteblood

He didn't get big books down here the first couple of years and the season just past was his biggest and i believe he served some better quality mare's. He served 104 in n.z and 73 here in Aus.

[Termite]

I think you will find that American ideal has had 5 winners from his current 2yo crop of 19. This equates to 26% winners to foals. This figure is outstanding and is only surpassed by Mach three in terms of w to f %. His 6th oz bred winner is one of Clive palmers in between foals who is a very young 3 yo winner. The smaple of 19 foals is not really large enough to make broad judgements but I am really confident this bloke will do the job out here.

[Love Of Courage]

he didnt get a very good number or book of mares to start here.

Hes definitely had a winner in Aust, as I bred and own him - Grouse party House

I think he will do a job here. I was speaking to a breaker earlier who has 10 yearlings and says he has got 2 very nice ones both by American ideal

Hello All.

I ended up having my horses broken here in Brisbane. The American Ideal colt is going along very nicely. Has a good attitude and wants to please. Driver tipped out of the cart and he yelled Whoa boy ! and the colt stopped and looked and waited for him to climb back in. Clicked the reins and off he went. Very sensible for a young horse and a natural pacer.

From being in a paddock and unbroken to doing laps around the track in less than a week. Seems pretty good to me.

[mightymo]

An outstanding win today from American Jewel.

Further to recent discussions, she is actually bred on a 3x4 cross to three diamonds

[triplev123]

1:51.0 makes American Jewel the Season's fastest 2yo filly and the 2nd fastest 2yo overall in North America this season. The only 2yo that has gone faster is a colt and it has gone just 1/5th of a second quicker...1:50.4.

[mango]

Thats right Triple I Fought Dalaw by Western Ideal, it seems Western Ideal and his son's are doing a great job.

[triplev123]

http://www.theharnessedge.com/story.asp?Mode=View&Story=50020

Long may she reign. This is a superstar filly.

[strong persuader]

There is an Aus daughter of American Ideal, Southwind Shannon that carries a similar cross. Two starts to date.

[triplev123]

BUGGER! Unfortunately American Jewel has cracked a sesamoid in a hind, I think it was the off-side?. She has had it operated on and screwed together & will be out for some time I guess. Jimmy Takter was interviewed about it somewhere & he said not long after she came off the track after her narrow defeat at The Red Mile she couldn't put any weight on it. It's a shame because she was going so great but the long term prognosis is apparently very good, 2 to 3 months to heal, and eventually she'll be back & racing some time after that. It's always the way. I think the good ones hurt themselves because they try harder.

[Big Max]

Such a shame,that's one classy filly.