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We are fast running out of time. First season sire (in Aus) Betting Line is near the top of the table but he had a big first crop and has already had 23 to race for 6 winners. 22 of them are from good mares or families. His best so far Whataretheodds is 15th on the 2yo's list. His top USA 2yo last season Abuckabett Hanonver $162k was also his fastest. IMO the jury is still out
Not so sure of Betting Line as he has Camtastic as the sire of his grand-dam. Camtastic was obviously a top class racehorse, but his siring record in the US and NZ was underwhelming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
Another bred like this is Betterthancheddar ( Bettors from a Camtstic mare) and he's yet to set the world on fire.
Both Betting Line and Betterthancheddar were from the Cassie Coleman stable.
Yes Noel, Betterthancheddar is no longer one of the featured stallions on the USTA's Stallion Showcase nor is he listed on HRA's Sires list and yet I think he has done the best of Bettors sons in the barnQuote:
Originally Posted by Adaptor
No but I wonder if Roll With Joe will instead via Racing Hill
I don't know about RH Katie. He had 73 (or 63?) of his 93 foals race in 2020 (his first crop) and yet he did not make the top 20 in this table
https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside...&yr=2020&age=2
He was probably 21st as I did the maths using the info in this link and he averaged $7,938 per foal (note it is per foal not starter)
https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside...&yr=2020&age=2
Here you can see how 28 of the 73 went here
https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside...r=2020&range=Q
Maybe we will have to wait a couple of years to see how Tall Dark Stranger's go
(or maybe it will be Somebeachsomewhere's Downbytheseaside, who shares the same 3rd dam, that makes the sire for this branch of U7)
TDS will be available this season (Frozen only)Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
see below for everything you could ever want to know about him
Impressive but we are still yet to see a Bettors successor
https://thebarn.thetrots.com.au/news...ire-stallions/
https://harnesslink.com/usa/ohio-sel...nbytheseaside/Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
To this writer the Sale was an outstanding success with the top price of $200,000 for lot 139, a filly by the first season pacing sire Downbytheseaside. Called Elusive Beauty this filly was from the outstanding 100% producing mare Swinging Beauty 1:49.4 ($893,268) and is a half sister to Captain Barbossa 1:47.1 and Whichwaytothebeach 1:49.2. Odds On Racing LLC was the buyer.
Lazarus's book has already closed down under
https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/...n-record-pace/
But the fact remains - Bettors is yet to leave a star stallion successor
Abuckabett Hanover is still the best advertisement for Betting Line being a successor
http://ustrottingnews.com/abuckabett...est-in-simcoe/
This continues to be true with him winning the Red Mile on Sunday. BL is throwing useful horses but Abuckabett is the only standout so farQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
https://harnesslink.com/new-zealand/...n-tattersalls/
Betting Line off to Canada - Abuckabett Hanover has not been enough to save him
https://harnesslink.com/canada/betti...arm-of-canada/
No doubt weight of numbers plays a big part but
Bettor’s Delight was the leading stakemoney sire in North America for the eighth time in the last 11 seasons, the last four on end. During the closing season his stock earned $21,618,449, more than $1.6 million ahead of Somebeachsomewhere in second position.
Next on the list was Somebeach’s son Captaintreacherous, followed by American Ideal, Sweet Lou, Art Major and Mach Three.
https://www.thetrots.com.au/news/art...d-states-sire/
He has pretty much been discounted but he has thrown some promising filliesQuote:
Originally Posted by Messenger
The Stewart stable do not have many NZ imports but 4yo mare Dannemora who made it 3/3 in Oz at Maryborough today, looks a likely type
https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...23#MHC12052301
Maybe it will be Bettor's Wish
https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside...&yr=2023&age=2