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    It is state by state here TC - no unity I'm afraid, sadly still a fair degree of rivalry.* We cannot however blame that for our woes as the gallops are probably worse.* It makes you wonder what could be achieved
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    I appreciate that but I just wonder whether HRA is about to take what I see as a long overdue leadership role when it comes to this issue as they have with the whip banning issue.

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    I believe that the issue regarding a system for all states will be decided in April this year, presumably during the review of the current method. So hopefully there will be some unity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teecee View Post
    I appreciate that but I just wonder whether HRA is about to take what I see as a long overdue leadership role when it comes to this issue as they have with the whip banning issue.
    Touché teecee

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    So how does the NSW system work?

    I look at Races 1,2 & 4 at tonight's Menangle and see they are Level 2, 3 & 4.

    I am thinking the lower the level the higher rated a horse is?
    I look at each horse's class and see there is an M0 horse in both the Level 2 & 4 so I am only guessing

    https://www.harness.org.au/fields.cfm?mc=PC260817
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    The NSW system is on trial for a few months. It is designed to place horses based on their current form in the amount of $$$$'s.
    Under a "How It Works" sheet it states;
    Events open to all horses
    Horses will be ranked based on the prizemoney won in the last 5 starts less any prizemoney won when winning a M0 event in the last 5 starts.
    Barrier draws are PBD/$L5 so highest money winner draws 10 or 12 with reserves in.

    Level 1 usually a $30,000 race
    Ranked 1st to 10th with 11th and 12th as reserves

    Level 2 usually a $22,000 race
    Ranked 11th to 20th with 21st and 22nd reserves

    Level 3 Usually a $14,000 race
    Ranked 21st to 30th with 31st and 32nd reserves

    Level 4 Usually a 12,000 race
    Ranked 31 to 40th with 41st and 42nd as reserves.

    As a horse earns more prizemoney it progresses through the levels and races for more prizemoney. It allows out of form highly M graded horses to continue racing but not against FFA in form horses. An example was tonight Bettor Bet Black a M8 was in a level 3 (he had 1 second in his last 6 starts) he wins $7,000 tonight and will probably be Level 2 next week.

    Hope that helps.

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    A better example was Desdon Murruffy coming home nice odds of $82. Not sure where this post fits in relation to several threads, especially as the trainer got QIP, driver tactics questioned, long shot winners, handicapping and last but not least ....a very long shot winner with an owner/driver.

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    Thanks Bailey and thanks to Adam Fairley for sending me this link

    http://www.harnessmediacentre.com.au...bsite%20v2.pdf
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    HRAs proposed rating based handicapping system

    HBNSW have distributed a copy of HRAs proposed ratings based handicapping system to their members requesting feedback. Not sure if any other industry groups have done likewise yet.

    https://gallery.mailchimp.com/ae971c...System_HRA.pdf

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    Thanks for that link Dot. I think it's worth a try.
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