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    Off the back of today’s announcement ($1M government funding), Harness Racing Victoria’s CEO David Martin confirmed that between 1 July 2018 and 30 June 2019, HRV would waive the registration fee for Victorian-bred foals from a Victorian mare and a Victorian standing stallion. During this same period, HRV will also reduce registration fees for foals from a Victorian mare by an interstate or overseas stallion.

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    Why are drivers restricted to the set drivers fee? Are some drivers who shall remain nameless really worth the same fee as G Lang, N Jack and C Alford? Should they be allowed to put a higher figure for their services? Could also lead to concession drivers getting more experience if they are deemed more value for money. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Why are drivers restricted to the set drivers fee? Are some drivers who shall remain nameless really worth the same fee as G Lang, N Jack and C Alford? Should they be allowed to put a higher figure for their services? Could also lead to concession drivers getting more experience if they are deemed more value for money. Just a thought.
    Why do they get a set fee at all?

    In the USA there is no basic fee paid to drivers.

    How do USA harness drivers get paid?

    Answer: Drivers get paid by commission—5 percent based on how much of the purse they win. If the purse is $20,000, the winning horse gets $10,000, and the winning driver gets $500. Purses are paid out at a percentage of 50-25-12-8-5, and drivers get 5 percent of those amounts. If, however, the horse earns no purse (finishes worse than fifth), the driver may get no money for his or her drive, although some jurisdictions do mandate the driver be paid at least $20 or $25. And, of course, the top often get additional compensation from the owner for winning the big races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Why are drivers restricted to the set drivers fee? Are some drivers who shall remain nameless really worth the same fee as G Lang, N Jack and C Alford? Should they be allowed to put a higher figure for their services? Could also lead to concession drivers getting more experience if they are deemed more value for money. Just a thought.
    Pretty sure the top shelf put a premium on their services that comes in differing forms, don't get me started on concession drivers Brendan, the longevity of the concession these days is an absolute farce. We have a couple of decent young fellas here that have driven over 100 winners and still get a concession, so as you would expect they are getting first chop at a lot of drives at each meeting while there is another 5 or 6 good young fellas that haven't had the same opportunities lucky to get a drive or two.


    Danno's humble opinion is the whole thing needs a bloody good review under a decent microscope, too many young people being denied opportunities that are going to their brethren that really don't need it in the way it was originally devised.

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    Not really in my range of knowledge but a very good subject Breno, I’m thinking that Driver concessions should be structured along the lines of Apprentice Jockey concessions and after set amount of wins(say between 75 & 100) the concessions should cease, Maybe 75 would be a fair number so the younger brigade gets a fair shake and a bit of encouragement.

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    Yole providing 10 of the runners in a 14 horse field Sunday at Hobart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Yole providing 10 of the runners in a 14 horse field Sunday at Hobart!
    Amazingly only 4 horses have any ownership duplication (2×2) , so that makes 8 different lots of owners.

    Yole cannot be convincing them all that they are winning chances so I am figuring he has plenty of owners just happy to have a horse going around

    http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?m...rc=EHC03061808
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Amazingly only 4 horses have any ownership duplication (2×2) , so that makes 8 different lots of owners.

    Yole cannot be convincing them all that they are winning chances so I am figuring he has plenty of owners just happy to have a horse going around

    http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?m...rc=EHC03061808
    From my calculations Yole had 34 starters at Hobart last Saturday night.....one wonders how he gets them all there in the allocated time, must bring them by train !! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PremiumEdition View Post
    From my calculations Yole had 34 starters at Hobart last Saturday night.....one wonders how he gets them all there in the allocated time, must bring them by train !! lol
    Looks like they are well organized:

    www.http://yoleracing.com

    We believe hard work breeds success and we have a great team behind us that helps is get there.

    Thank you to Tim & Conor - our full time workers, and to all of our staff and drivers both at the stables and race day.

    Our success is thanks to you!

    Ben Yole - Lead trainer

    Cat - (Ben's wife) Admin Manager

    Tim Yole - Stable foreman - brother

    Conor - Stable junior driver

    Mark Yole - Track work driver - brother

    Kevin- General stable hand

    Karen - General stable hand

    Chloe - General stable hand

    Tony - General stable hand/track work driver/handyman

    Johnny - Handyman/maintenance man/general stable hand

    Rob - General stable hand & track work driver

    Jake - Junior stable hand

    Wayne - Truck Driver

    Marlene - Colour & Number coordinator / stable hand

    Louise - Admin

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    I am always amazed at the miles harness participants notch up

    Matthew Craven from Ecklin South (think South of Terang in Western Vic) has 7 in at Cranbourne tonight (the SE extreme of Melbourne) including Race 1 and Race 8

    It takes well over 3hrs by car so he is looking at a 2pm to 2am day.

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...&fromstate=vic
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