ASBA Breeding Panel Report- well worth the read

[smithy]

The small matter of the 26% that you currently have up your sleave by way of the $Oz to $NZ Fx wouldn't come into it would it Smithy? Nah, of course not. Perish the thought.
Btw, I know of a couple of Oz bred, based & raced horses, one a current 2yo, one a current 3yo, that will race through their grades and at 4yrs+ will be good enough to win at Metro level. Not only that but the fellas that own them are sellers, always have been, always will be. I think the 2yo's a fair chance to develop enough between now and then to make a Derby Heat or two next year and while the 3yo has basically already missed his shots through circumstances beyond anyone's control, like his younger counterpart I've no doubt he'll go through to an M3-M4.

mate you know aussies aren't sellers and kiwi's are - that is the way it is.

inflating the price of horses is going against the very first point mentioned in the report- costs becoming too high for owners to break even (page 2 of the report)

[triplev123]

To some extent that's true Smithy, that is basically the way it is...but make no mistake, there's nothing overtly more noble / more commercially minded about it as far as the Kiwis are concerned. Instead it is down to the fact that most Aussies aren't sellers because, unlike the Kiwis, they simply don't have to be. To start off with the Kiwis produce well in excess of the number of horses they'll require to fill their race fields every year & due to the addition of a number of things, not the least of which are a their harsh(er) handicapping system & a general lack of racing opportunities they simply have to sell, they have no other choice but to sell. Further to this (somewhat enforced by the circumstances) selling approach is the fact that for NZ, the US/CAN market has all but dried up so at present and for the foreseeable future Australia is pretty much their SOLE market.
That's not going to inflate the prices for going stock...it's all about supply and demand (sorry Breno).
If you're concerned about prices for going horses being inflated then might I suggest you consider those fellas over in WA who have been shelling out phone numbers in order to pick off the top end of the NZ going concerns...and in doing so duly raising the expectations of price for a swag lesser lights? They're belting the prices along way, way more than any increased charges/fees could ever do.

[mango]

One trainer in W.A over the last couple of years has shelled out $4.2 mil on behalf of clients only to win back $1.7 mil, they made an offer of $150k on a 3yr old at Cambridge when i was there in early april.

[smithy]

peacock? oh wait you said WA.. woops

[triplev123]

Hey Smithy....steady on with the comments about...

'The Colourful Bird'.
He's a relation of mine, though somewhat removed admittedly.

[justdoit]

Thank you for the link to the report, what part/parts of the report will actually be acted upon?

[mango]

Thank you for the link to the report, what part/parts of the report will actually be acted upon?

Hi Justdoit

They would like feed back in writing regarding the report whether people like it or not so they can act upon what the industry want's.

[aussiebreno]

To some extent that's true Smithy, that is basically the way it is...but make no mistake, there's nothing overtly more noble / more commercially minded about it as far as the Kiwis are concerned. Instead it is down to the fact that most Aussies aren't sellers because, unlike the Kiwis, they simply don't have to be. To start off with the Kiwis produce well in excess of the number of horses they'll require to fill their race fields every year & due to the addition of a number of things, not the least of which are a their harsh(er) handicapping system & a general lack of racing opportunities they simply have to sell, they have no other choice but to sell. Further to this (somewhat enforced by the circumstances) selling approach is the fact that for NZ, the US/CAN market has all but dried up so at present and for the foreseeable future Australia is pretty much their SOLE market.
That's not going to inflate the prices for going stock...it's all about supply and demand (sorry Breno).
If you're concerned about prices for going horses being inflated then might I suggest you consider those fellas over in WA who have been shelling out phone numbers in order to pick off the top end of the NZ going concerns...and in doing so duly raising the expectations of price for a swag lesser lights? They're belting the prices along way, way more than any increased charges/fees could ever do.

Lol

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgu...ed=0CCgQ9QEwAQ

Thats the easy bit; if you start talking deadweight loss I'm not going to be happy though....or a tax with the $5000 import fee and how that affects the supply and demand I'm going to be cranky !!!

[Greg Hando]

Smithy just shop around you might be surprised at what horses are available if asked about wether for sale or not everything just about has a price

[justdoit]

Thank you for the link to the report, what part/parts of the report will actually be acted upon?

What part/parts of the report do the people here think will be acted upon?