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Thread: The National Breeding Credit Scheme: Can it go further?

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    Senior Member 4YO dizzy will become famous soon enough
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    It would be nice if other costs of breeding could be covered by the scheme but service fees are likely to be the only administratively viable and auditable way.

    A levy on the foals produced by a stallion over a set number could be a way of providing funding but may result in stallion owners increasing the fee to make the same or more money from a lessor number of mares to get round it. The major studs/stallion owners have also in many cases become major sponsors so increasing their costs could be counterproductive if it comes out of sponsorship budgets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Hando View Post
    Eliteblood you say
    The only way to stop service fee $ from flowing to the USA is to improve the quality of our own colts so that they become a viable stallion alternative. We are not there yet but we are quickly closing the gap.

    Yes this is a good idea but how is it done i firmly believe it is the mentality of the breeder and buyer that stop's this happening now because they haven't got IMP after their name that is breeder's that sell at yearling sales and also the buyer's that buy at the sales as is aid earlier if some of these better colt's got a chance with some top quality mare's they might surprise a lot of people at what they could produce.
    Greg,

    It is ingrained into us that IMP stallions are much superior to ours so it is going to be a long process to turn that around. Christian Cullen and to a lesser extent CUF have helped - we need some more like them. Classic Garry did a pretty good job as well.
    Menangle will break down some barriers as it becomes more common for our horses to race down around the 1:50 mark.
    Some possible initiatives to assist could be :-
    Speed sulkies at Menangle to reduce the times further
    Zero registration fees for Australian bred stallions
    Zero registration fees for foals of Australian bred stallions

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    Any time you start restricting the field of choice (e.g. Australian based sires only) you risk defeating the purpose of any such idea...i.e. to breed the very best horses possible. The deplorable and thankfully now defunct NSW Sires Stakes presided over a Standardbred Genetics version of 'The Fall Of Rome'...by way of its ongoing support of mediocrity. Credits should be open to ALL sires, regardless of their geographical base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteblood View Post
    Greg,

    It is ingrained into us that IMP stallions are much superior to ours so it is going to be a long process to turn that around. Christian Cullen and to a lesser extent CUF have helped - we need some more like them. Classic Garry did a pretty good job as well.
    Menangle will break down some barriers as it becomes more common for our horses to race down around the 1:50 mark.
    Some possible initiatives to assist could be :-
    Speed sulkies at Menangle to reduce the times further
    Zero registration fees for Australian bred stallions
    Zero registration fees for foals of Australian bred stallions
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triplev123 View Post
    Any time you start restricting the field of choice (e.g. Australian based sires only) you risk defeating the purpose of any such idea...i.e. to breed the very best horses possible. The deplorable and thankfully now defunct NSW Sires Stakes presided over a Standardbred Genetics version of 'The Fall Of Rome'...by way of its ongoing support of mediocrity. Credits should be open to ALL sires, regardless of their geographical base.
    this is exactly what i think will happen with the credits triple v - i think that it will support the moderate mares and the good mares were already going to decent stallions everyyear

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