Reply With QuoteIt would be equal second in a race, as Cambest's very old record was a time trial .Originally Posted by gutwagon
The second and third horses times would be close to the winners.
Great point Rick, I will pass that on to John Peck and see what he thinks it should be
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It would be equal second in a race, as Cambest's very old record was a time trial .
The second and third horses times would be close to the winners.
Hi Rick, John sensibly explained that you keep times as per region
If you were going to convert times for comparison it would still sit where John has it as it would have been rounded up. So overall it is Eq 7th race time
If it had been 1.46.8, it would have been Eq 2nd race time (with the US 1.46.4's)
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I wasn't sure if they rounded them up or not. Anyway I think it should have stayed at 1.47.0 because that's where the clock stopped , I can't understand how they are sometimes wound back. I understand how quarters are rounded up or down to one decimal place but you can't wind the overall time back to the previous second.
Don't die wondering !
At 1.46.9 they are doing 15.05 m/sec so every horse from the Winner to AFL have broken 1.48
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Soho Tribeca may prove to be the future stallion prospect (for breeder Robert Watson)
When you look at descendants of 2nd dam Amarillen, you wonder whether this could be the beginning of a dynasty
http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descen...rseID=10113052
(don't forget to click on the + box for Pixel Perfect)
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Fair call Kev, Nice family and Soho Tribeca is as tough as old boots
Went down Saturday night and what a night, weather conditions were perfect for fast times and the barrier draw for the mile ensured there would be no easy time for anyone at any stage, I tipped very early in the day a possible sub '47 mile due to the above factors and we were not disappointed.
With regards to the debate about whether it was the fifth/seventh or whatever fastest mile in history, lets take into account the winner was never on the pegs, nor was the hugely courageous Jilliby Kung Fu ( now there is the next superstar if he stays sound), how many of the records taken in the North were sitting one off the pegs/fence the entire journey? I don't know but I'd hazard a guess at less than 50%.
I have always known and put forward that our horses were at LEAST the equal of the Northern Hemisphere, people keep on saying it's because of the top US/Canadian sires being made available, but that is marketing spiel, nothing more nothing less. Our horses were going to the states and beating them at their own game in the sixties and early seventies before we had an influx of predominantly low grade sires imported and marketed as the best thing since sliced bread by at least one shrewd Kiwi bloke that made a fortune out of dragging our breed back a generation or two in the name of his own bank account.
Evolution is why the horse are going so much quicker and we see spurts in evolutionary advancement from time to time, as Frank Irvine's father said to him about 100 years ago," one day the pacers will go as fast as the "runners" ( gallopers)" he meant that he was seeing great strides in evolution even then ( much bigger strides than we see now) and had great faith in the breed. And I believe he was correct, it won't happen in my lifetime that a standardbred will run 1.30 for a mile, but it will happen sometime in the next 100 years.
cheers,
Dan
Well said Dan, I had that exact conversation with Bob McArdle a couple of years ago. Been away for a while and missed a lot but I’m real happy to see that the Breeders Of Jilliby Kung Fu are Dean and Blanche Poole from Victoria, They are terrific people and I’m very happy for them
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