stallions

[pukpuk]

Here is a list of proven stallions. On performance, price, and any other criteria you can think of - in general - how would u rank them?

Art Major
Badlands Hanover
Bettors Delight
Elsu
Four Starzz Shark
Grinfromeartoear
Mach Three
McArdle
Real Desire

[mightymo]

Here is a list of proven stallions. On performance, price, and any other criteria you can think of - in general - how would u rank them?

Art Major
Badlands Hanover
Bettors Delight
Elsu
Four Starzz Shark
Grinfromeartoear
Mach Three
McArdle
Real Desire

bit hard for FSS, as his oldest proper crop are only about to race as 2yos.

IMO, i would rank the others as follows:

Art Major
BD/Mach Three
GFETE
Real Desire
Badlands Hanover
Mcardle
Elsu

[triplev123]

Bettor's Delight/Art Major
Mach Three
GFETE
Real Desire
Badlands Hanover
Mcardle
Elsu

These are mine. Basically agree with Mightymo's rankings & also his comment re: FSS.
In saying that I am hearing some very, very good things about his soon to be 2yo Oz breds. We shall see. I do like them, no question. The real sleeper is Artistic Fella. Unproven as yet of course. He was an absolutely outstanding racehorse and the more I see of his youngsters the more I like them. If he doesn't go on leave some extremely good racehorses here in Oz then not only will I eat my old lawn mowing shoes but also a rather grotty, sweat stained baseball cap that's been on the floor up in the back corner of the garage for 6 months or more.

[mightymo]

After all your negative comments on Art Major, and in particular his colts, im surprised you had him up at the top!!

[triplev123]

Indeed. It was a rather magnanimous gesture on my part wouldn't you say?

[thesushitrain]

bd/m3/art major

all equal for me, just a matter of who can get the most foals on the ground

but you've forgotten cullen, cuf and the 2 big western ideal stallions

[Greg Hando]

All figure's are Australasian 3yo and older quoted from Pepper Tree sale book 2011
Art Major 38.36% w/f
Badlands Hanover 26.40 % w/f
Bettors Delight 48.80 % w/f
Elsu not sure but not high
Four Starzz Shark not enough foal's but of foal's 3yo and older 40 % w/f
Grinfromeartoear 24.68 % w/f
Mach Three 44.36 %w/f
Macardle not sure
Real Desire only 2yo's 20.48% w/f
Courage Under Fire 37.64 % w/f
Christian Cullen 47.84 % w/f
I personally don't rate GFETE ,Badlands and Elsu
Hope this is of some assistance I think winners to foals is the best guide then affordability

[Termite]

Thanks for the 3yo and older stats Greg. In terms of where the dollars are in Australia and in terms of commercial appeal, I'm less interested in the aged data than the Juvenile data - particularly 2yo's. I'm sure that a resourceful poster will scratch out the total 2yo winners to foals for these stallions over Australian siring career. For this season, by my reckoning the 2yo winners to foals stats read as follow;

Mach 3 31%
American Ideal 26%
Art Major 23%
Bettors Delight 19%
Real Desire 16%
Modern Art 14%
Grin 9%
Life Sign 6%

[triplev123]

Just a word of caution fellas. I'd take any sires stats published in any sales catalogue anywhere with more than a few grains of salt.

[thesushitrain]

... those stats are only going to tell you what you already know, good stallions get good mares and throw good horses