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    1396 foals born in Victoria last season, 185 less then the previous season and the first time less then 1500, and likely Id say to be further reduced this season with a major nursery relocating a large number of their mares to NSW.

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    I would have thought the fields may have been stronger for Cranbourne today
    An all $7k meet and only Sunday traffic to get there

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...18#CRC30091805
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    The last at Melton tonight is not how things are supposed to work
    It is a Vicbred Platinum Country Series final
    The heats were at Stawell last Sunday but there was only 1 heat so the whole 9 could have run at Melton tonight
    Instead we end up with a field of 4 after 3 of the 7 acceptors scratched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    The last at Melton tonight is not how things are supposed to work
    It is a Vicbred Platinum Country Series final
    The heats were at Stawell last Sunday but there was only 1 heat so the whole 9 could have run at Melton tonight
    Instead we end up with a field of 4 after 3 of the 7 acceptors scratched
    Agreed Kev:
    Four pacers for $10,000 is probably a great result for owners of those 4, but from an industry point of view it looks awful.

    Here's one of the key differences between the way that HRV frame races, and what is called Conditioned Racing in the US.

    I think this is how it works...correct me someone if I'm wrong-
    With conditioned racing the track secretary (not the central body) assess the available horse population on track.
    Many tracks have a lot of on-site accommodation for horses/grooms/trainers.
    For Yonkers, Freehold and The Meadowlands there are massive training centers in New Jersey, within 30-40 minutes of these tracks where large numbers of horses are stabled.

    So the races are framed for what the secretary knows is available.

    We frame the races many weeks ahead, and hope that horses will be entered. This often results in last minute appeals for entries, or the dropping of the race.

    If there was a way of predicting what horses were available ( even 2 weeks ahead) to enable races to be framed, it might be possible to frame the race to available horses, not the other way around.

    All it would need would be for weekly stable returns (computerized) to include whether a horse is:
    1. Just entered training
    2 Ready to qualify
    3. Ready to trial
    4. Ready to race
    5. Already racing
    6. Ready to spell
    and for the Conditions for races to be framed to match what is available.

    As we have a small population for some classes, the return of standing starts would be needed to enable handicapping, or including 3 or 4 classes in a race ( ie C1,2,3 and 4).
    You would have a race and owners would be able to get a start in a race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    The last at Melton tonight is not how things are supposed to work
    It is a Vicbred Platinum Country Series final
    The heats were at Stawell last Sunday but there was only 1 heat so the whole 9 could have run at Melton tonight
    Instead we end up with a field of 4 after 3 of the 7 acceptors scratched
    Heat/s for that series were set down for Yarra Valley on the Monday following Stawell as well Kev but obviously there weren't 6 or 7 horses in the east/south east to make up one heat.

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    Very disappointing Wayne
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    No lack of noms for Shepparton this Sunday - may need to increase prize money for increased competition.

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    Optimist!

    More likely to decrease prizemoney to make less attractive
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    If an optimist means paying more down to last, I'm the epitome of.

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    on the lighter side

    The strapper looked over the Shepp noms during breakfast, "they could run 14 races".

    I reply "I wonder how that would effect nom numbers for next week?"

    Quick as a flash, "won't worry Wednesday as they're at Mildura".

    I shake my head in disbelief at strapper's knowledge of the racing calendar. Thinking I might have to up her pay I stutter out "how did you know that?!"

    "I've got a hair appointment booked for Wednesday"

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