Looking more closely Kev they could be older then 2yos so early indications are definately dissapointing but the sample size of the data is still small enough to not be relevant. A statistician would say the sample size for pretty much every cross is too small to be relevant. I'll go out on a limb and say I'd prefer to see SBSW mares with stallions with Direct Scooter in there lines as American Ideal and Rock n Roll heaven do, but with the strength of the mares and maternal families SBSW was bred over his daughters in time will become good producers with a range of sires.