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Thread: The New Ratings Based Handicapping System

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    The Cranbourne consultation session could probably be held in an elevator !
    Don't die wondering !

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    Was thinking similar mysel Rick, and Bendigo misses out. One prominent owner has called for one in the city. I’ve read it’s being introduced in May

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    The price of the favourites at Melton tonight is a classic example of why we need a new system

    $2.30 $1.40 $2.30 $1.40 $1.30 $1.04 $1.60 $1.30 $1.70 $1.20

    Other than that we have to educate the public because there was actually winners to be had at

    $7.40 $3.30 $5.40 $10.70

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=MX090219
    per un PUGNO di DOLLARI

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    Am I the only one that thinks these "consultation sessions" will be to explain how the system works and the decision has already been made and nothing about the new system will be altered ?
    Don't die wondering !

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    The matrix that is included in the attachment in Dot's post #1 of this thread, (for race stakes $2001-$8500) shows points reductions happening for 6th to last- so not many reduction points flowing out of 5 and 6 races fields for horses finishing last and second last? Also it says no points movements for horses retired in running or pulled up, but presumably they do "use up" one of the available reduction places. Unless the average field sizes show a noticeable increase, the reductions won't be happening as much as is seemingly intended in the matrix.

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    Good to see a C2 assessed pacer start favourite and win the SA Cup last night. Probably the best win ever be a horse with this assessment at the time of the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showgrounds View Post
    Good to see a C2 assessed pacer start favourite and win the SA Cup last night. Probably the best win ever be a horse with this assessment at the time of the race.
    Spankem beat Tiger Tara as a C1 and a further Inter heat as a C2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showgrounds View Post
    Good to see a C2 assessed pacer start favourite and win the SA Cup last night. Probably the best win ever be a horse with this assessment at the time of the race.
    Tongue in cheek Trevor? He was actually a C1 going into the race, now he’s a C2

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfyourluck View Post
    The matrix that is included in the attachment in Dot's post #1 of this thread, (for race stakes $2001-$8500) shows points reductions happening for 6th to last- so not many reduction points flowing out of 5 and 6 races fields for horses finishing last and second last? Also it says no points movements for horses retired in running or pulled up, but presumably they do "use up" one of the available reduction places. Unless the average field sizes show a noticeable increase, the reductions won't be happening as much as is seemingly intended in the matrix.
    Good points Graeme.

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    Also doesn’t indicate what the band width or spread of ratings points will be in the programming or wether these will be fixed or variable. So along with slow reductions in points in small fields as Graeme has pointed out, if those small fields are in races with a wide spread of ratings points determining eligibility movement down toward an easier band could be negligible for quite sometime for some horses.

    Likewise band width will also impact on a successful horses ascent to racing higher rated horses.

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