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    Natalie appeals suspension...
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    Quote Originally Posted by teecee View Post
    Natalie appeals suspension...
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    and will be driving at Menangle
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    Both Tritton runners in the MM are 200/1
    Does that mean the selection/elimination process has failed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    and will be driving at Menangle
    Always was. Suspension did not apply to Menangle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Both Tritton runners in the MM are 200/1
    Does that mean the selection/elimination process has failed?
    It can be said that it may be one of a number of reasons along with the perception of bookies who don't select the field.
    The amount of money invested on them compared to other runners.
    Certainly the selection process appears flawed or in the minds of some, a joke or a farce.
    The Miracle Mile has always been by invitation. From its earliest times there was never a dearth of the very best trying to achieve an invite and 6 of the VERY BEST around Australia and later when travel made it easier, Australasia, succeeded in getting an invite and thus coming together to put on truly the race of the year. (Even allowing for the glamour and horse class of the NZ Cup). The selectors of the field of only 6 (no emergencies !!!!) in those times had something the selectors of today are very lacking in. IMHO and that of many others.
    The MM is the one race in the world of any code that a place in it was the ultimate for anyone involved in the sport. Hence the horses were so even and the odds on each also. There was never a need to change the conditions of entry as has been done. That include but not restricted to the change of venue and track size. That this has been done so often over a relatively short period of time is the classic case in point the well known sayings... If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Leave well alone !!!

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    With Tee Cee here I’d like to see the MM go back to an invitation race. The qualifying race format leads to the possibility of best on the day not best overall gaining a start with potentially barrier draw playing too large a part and, as has happened here suggestions of some only doing enough to qualify not impress.

    $1m+ invitation race 6 runners plus emergencies to ensure field size of 6 with a $1m+ pick six pool for punters and barrier draw on the sails of the opera house for mine!

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    $1.85 million on offer at Menangle tonight
    (of course Randwick still has us covered even today!)
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    The system was only Majordan galloping at Newcastle off being in the field and Cruz Bromac a whisker off being in the field in place of those two. With that you've got the fastest open age miler and ID favourite so would have been a better quality field.
    Perhaps an argument only winner goes through from the heats. Lead to better quality run heats. Probably have to put heats back to Chariots night if that was the case - too hard to run 1.49 heat week then 1.48 final week.
    With the 6V8 can we compromise with 7? Wide barrier and last pairs don't do well in a Miracle Mile, but the danger of being the last pair makes the pace greater in the first 400m which brings the middle pairs more in to the race. If only 6 horses can see there being no great urgency in finding a forward spot and we get lackadaisical first halves.

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    I could go with 7 and a pick 7! Story on a horse for everyday of the week for the lead in. Isn’t 7 most people’s pick as a lucky number? That can only help

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    The system was only Majordan galloping at Newcastle off being in the field and Cruz Bromac a whisker off being in the field in place of those two. With that you've got the fastest open age miler and ID favourite so would have been a better quality field.
    Perhaps an argument only winner goes through from the heats. Lead to better quality run heats. Probably have to put heats back to Chariots night if that was the case - too hard to run 1.49 heat week then 1.48 final week.
    With the 6V8 can we compromise with 7? Wide barrier and last pairs don't do well in a Miracle Mile, but the danger of being the last pair makes the pace greater in the first 400m which brings the middle pairs more in to the race. If only 6 horses can see there being no great urgency in finding a forward spot and we get lackadaisical first halves.
    Winners only on Chariots night and 7 sounds good
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