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    Super Moderator Stallion Messenger will become famous soon enough Messenger's Avatar
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    Vicbred Super Series 2019

    For Tuesday night, random draw instead of trainer split can simply end up the same although.
    The Stewart stable was the only one with enough runners for it to be a serious concern
    The stables with multiple runners would mostly be happy especially the Stewart stable

    There are four 2yoF heats

    Stewart: 1-1-1-2
    Miles: 1-1-1
    East: 1-1
    Attard: 1-1
    Shinn: 1-1
    with Peter Manning the only unlucky one with his 2 fillies in the same heat


    There are three 2yoC&G heats

    Stewart: 1-2-1
    Crossland: 1-0-2

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=BN180619
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    There is no way a random heat draw could produce those results Kevin. In the fillies every trainer got an even split, chances of that happening randomly are very slim. The big stables have been well looked after.
    Don't die wondering !

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    I think they could - I might do a few shuffles of the deck in a minute

    Pack of 39 with only 5 hearts to be dealt 4 ways
    Pack of 30 with only 4 hearts to be dealt 3 ways

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    Rightio, I could only be bothered doing 10 deals for the 39 Fillies (a small sample I know)

    For the 5 Stewart runners (the 5 hearts I left in the deck)
    the 4 heats fell as follows:

    1112
    0131
    0320
    2021
    1220
    3200
    2111
    2210
    0221
    2201

    So in my little sample 5/10 saw them with 2 heats with 2 runners, 1 heat with 1 runner and 1 heat with 0 runners
    With the way it fell for HRV 1,1,1,2 popping up 2 times

    For the Miles stable (the 3 two's I left in the deck)

    21
    21
    111
    111
    3
    111
    12
    12
    21
    111

    So in my small sample
    5/10 they ended up with 2 fillies in 1 heat and 1 in another
    With the way it fell for HRV 1,1,1 occurring 4 times

    My sample is too small but it does demonstrate that the way it fell is very possible
    I don't know whether mathematically it would be the favoured way but is it not a long shot of happening
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    It is mathematically possible Kevin but for 6 of the 8 trainers with multiple runners to get a perfect split of runners would be huge odds. Heats should have been drawn live somewhere just for integrity purposes.


    Personally I think any trainer with multiple runners should have them put into the same heat. It is much better for the industry for the prize money to be spread out across stables.
    Don't die wondering !

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    Members and Guests please note due to a large corporate booking at tomorrow night’s meeting their will be very limited seating available. The tuckshop downstairs will be open & a BBQ outside available for food.


    That 'large corporate booking' would want to be HRV putting on something for the Vicbred owners turning up to see their 2yo!!!!!
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    Bendigo Harness
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    Members and Guests please note due to a large corporate booking at tomorrow night’s meeting their will be very limited seating available. The tuckshop downstairs will be open & a BBQ outside available for food.


    That 'large corporate booking' would want to be HRV putting on something for the Vicbred owners turning up to see their 2yo!!!!!
    You have to be joking Kev ! Nothing for the owners ! Fields for 3year olds are out for Kilmore.

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    It’s a long time since I lived in Vic but I still remember how cold it gets in winter at Kilmore. I know it gets cold elsewhere too, and yes I know it’s a week day, but with Kilmore also having its track inside the gallops track which doesn’t create the best visual spectacle either on track or via broadcast is this really the best venue and scheduling to be showcasing our best 3yos? Some how I think we are selling ourselves and our product way short if the powers that be think it is.

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    The 3yo C&G would have to be random enough for everybody

    The big Stewart stable has 9 runners in the 5 heats with the fall being
    1-2-4-1-1

    For the Aiken stable they drew
    3-1-0-1-0

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...s/?mc=KI200619
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
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    Bendigo Harness
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    Members and Guests please note due to a large corporate booking at tomorrow nightís meeting their will be very limited seating available. The tuckshop downstairs will be open & a BBQ outside available for food.


    That 'large corporate booking' would want to be HRV putting on something for the Vicbred owners turning up to see their 2yo!!!!!
    Geez I hope Kevs right!! Iíll be starving after a 5 hour trip south!! Canít wait!!

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