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    Is this The All Stars special edge?

    The following links explain

    https://opencorporates.com/companies/nz/6340692

    Mark and Nat directors along with Garry Andrews and Ian Mitchell

    This is what it is

    http://www.equinebloodsolutions.nz/

    It has been a topic of interest on other forums for a year now


    https://bitofayarn.com/yarn/topic/5064-blood-doping/

    A search for Garry Andrews shows he has an involvement with Taylormade Equine Solutions
    I am unsure of Taylormade's status nowadays but in 2015


    https://www.hrnsw.com.au/news/816/un...ormade-equine-


    The person who provided these links to me wondered if the serum referred to in these charges against MP is the same serum referred to by Equine Blood Solutions

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing...ops-hefty-fine

    No wonder the little guy has little chance
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    About to go through some autologuos blood cell harvesting and replacement myself. Don't think I will comtinue to race, though.

    Kev, it costs $80NZ a day to have a horse trained at All Stars. For that money, I would expect the stable to have the competitive edge it has with all bases covered. The availability of this treatment is just one of them. Trainers being in partnership with veterinarians or veterinary product manufacturers is not new, Percy Sykes and TJ Smith founded Ranvet around half a century ago. It might come as a surprise to some that (heaven forbid) a harness racing stable has a majority shareholding in what appears to be a company that serves all forms of horse sports.

    Of course, the same product is available to all trainers. The difference here is those forking out $80 a day for each horse are likely to need less convincing or persuasion to go down that path. A syndicate of 10 blokes paying $40 a day elsewhere might not be so easy to persuade. Given the size of the investment most owners have in All Stars horses - high priced yearlings and training investment - it is a risk mitigation strategy more than anything.

    Just hope it works for me!

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    I hope it works for you too Trev
    The word from Nz seems to suggest that it is going to be banned
    I hope so as it is not a natural thing to have blood transfusions all the time and if it is actually providing an edge we don't want every stable with a Gp runner having to do it to remain competitive
    When you get to that point you all need to agree not to do it as it pointless - a rule is the answer (and saves everybody money)
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    Fully understand your sentiment Kev but, in my book, animal welfare is No 1 priority, These transfusions go a long way to ensuring the health of a horse, much preferable than seeing them race under sufferance. Or, much worse, with the aid of genuine performing enhancing drugs.

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