Its not a level playing field

[ringman]

I feel sorry for you blokes who are running by the rules of harness racing because you sure are up against it.i have not invested one cent on a race in months and sadly i wont be investing in the future so i am not talking through my kick.
its a absolute joke watching some of these races and seeing whats happening to the average hard worker when these scum bags are getting away with blue murder.its corrupt to the bones nothing is being done with sentences not being harsh enough.

So boys best to join the maggots and start doping your team and of course getting help from other drivers in the run because thats the only way you will be remotely able to compete with what your up against.

If anyone thinks its going to change then think again and keep your eyes open for the tooth fairy. what a shame such a great sport has been destroyed by inactivity of those in power to stamp out the scum bags not only that they even have the front to be seen out with persons under investigation(so they say)

bye bye Harness racing you have no hope of recovery unless people revolt and demonstrate while stopping a major meeting then they will have to do something MAYBE

[Paleface]

have heard this sentiment expressed all too often in the last year or so.

[Greg Hando]

ringman say's
So boys best to join the maggots and start doping your team and of course getting help from other drivers in the run because thats the only way you will be remotely able to compete with what your up against.

Two wrong's don't make a right why bring yourself to down to their level ?

[ringman]

Two wrong's don't make a right why bring yourself to down to their level ?

Yes i know Greg but you have no chance working within the rules, what hope has the average joe got when some drivers are assisting others and then you have the QLD mob team driving(its plain to see) and of course the obvious rorting. i honestly dont know how anyone can invest a cent at the moment as Harness racing is going to take a long time to recover from these mongrels and maybe it wont recover.
I would turnover 150k + weekly now i wont invest a cent because they are getting horses over the line by stealth.i had a huge day today(thanks Helmet) and normally i would be taking on the punters at the Harness meetings but i have no confidence in the present form to invest.
As for the future im working on gallops only until they clean the game up and everyone is on the same level playing field

[aussiebreno]

Yeah gallops are so clean...

[ringman]

Yeah gallops are so clean...

lets just say they are about 95% cleaner than Harness racing at the moment where at least you can do form and its accurate unlike harness form.take for instance a horse like From London yesterday 3.0 fav and was no possible chance in the race on form but punters still took 3.5 and more on Betfair for plenty the mugs.not to mention Helmet who had no chance in the cox plate.

[barney]

Yeah gallops are so clean...

Group winner in Melbourne has tested positive to arsenic, used to help horse recover from tough run.
All codes have it just seems more in Harness than gallops at present.

[Diesel]

Group winner in Melbourne has tested positive to arsenic, used to help horse recover from tough run.
All codes have it just seems more in Harness than gallops at present.

Plenty more in the Gallops than you think....
There are more high TC02s than Harness. The difference being they warn their participants to check feeds/routines.
Aust Harness seem to be the only ones persisting with this...

[Thevoiceofreason]

Plenty more in the Gallops than you think....
There are more high TC02s than Harness. The difference being they warn their participants to check feeds/routines.
Aust Harness seem to be the only ones persisting with this...

John you are partially right however a quick phone call and I think you will find out that the only state that does not provide this warning that a trainer is close to a breach of the rules is NSW to my understanding ever other state both codes has this warning system in place.

Michael Beattie introduced it to NSW as well to bring them into line but it left when he did or soon after. So there is no confusion if you are over you are over but if you are close you are warned and told to improve your procedures.

In NSW if you got a high one in the Beattie days then you got target tested for quite a while ask the trainers they all know.

[Flashing Red]

John you are partially right however a quick phone call and I think you will find out that the only state that does not provide this warning that a trainer is close to a breach of the rules is NSW to my understanding ever other state both codes has this warning system in place.

Not Qld as far as I believe.... I actually thought it was only Vic that sent warning letters. I think they are a great idea. It might help completely innocent trainers uncover dehydration issues (especially in winter times) and a host of other things etc....