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    USA 2yo Sire Stats 2021
    (I might see if I can't include/subtract top performer at some stage)

    https://www.ustrotting.com/trackside...&yr=2021&age=2
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    A bit clumsy looking but I have added the average earnings Without Highest Earner in red

    You can see that the top 2 standout then the gaps start opening up
    It is different from the way we usually do it
    They have average per foal
    We generally use average per starter
    I think I prefer per foal actually

    I know it is only their 2yo's but it seems to me that there is not as much money in USA 2yo racing as I imagined

    ps I don't think it is necessarily fair to leave out highest earner but even this single table shows how one horse can sometimes distort the average (probably why median is sometimes preferred to mean/average)
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    Seeing as though I have the info at my fingertips thanks to the above calculations and some may be interested, here are their top earners

    Downbytheseaside $446k

    Captaintreacherous $281k

    Sweet Lou $238k

    Always B Miki $352k

    Odds On Equuleus $227k

    Tellitlikitis $196k

    Big Jim $449k

    World Of Rocknroll $126k

    Huntsville $170k

    American Ideal $238k

    Betting Line $85k

    Betterthancheddar $268k
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    I am on a roll, here I have added the sire behind the leading 2yo pacers in the US
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    Interesting that Bettors Delight is not in the Top 20 by 2yo average earnings (see post 91 table)
    He has the 9th highest earner in Silver Label but obviously his 116 foals average under $9,000
    (He sneaks into 18th for 3yo's by average earnings)

    Nor did Somebeachsomewhere make it with his last small crop of 20
    He however is 2nd only to Always B Miki on the 3yo averages table
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    I am on a roll, here I have added the sire behind the leading 2yo pacers in the US
    Good work Kev. These analyses are quite revealing. Downbytheeaside' especially.
    It's quite amazing how stats reveal a different picture to what ads for stallions try and tell you.

    There's no question though that the Direct Scooter male line from Mach Three has radically changed breeding. Also how sons of non-commercial stallions...Always A Virgin ( Always B Miki) and Yankee Cruiser ( Sweet Lou) can extend their sire-line.

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    A super win by Anne's Irish Black Label to win the fillies Tatlow first up
    I am starting to worry about not taking the opportunity to by into her little ¾ bro (it was only my misgivings about Betting Line that stopped me)

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...21#GEM23102109
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    Something to look forward to on Oct 29

    $600,000 Breeders Crown — 2-Year-Old Pacing Fillies
    1. Gotthegreenlight (Brian Sears, Nifty Norman)
    2. Captain Cowgirl (Scott Zeron, Jim King Jr.)
    3. Galleria Hanover (Yannick Gingras, Ron Burke)
    4. Treacherous Dragon (Tim Tetrick, Brett Pelling)
    5. Queen Of Success (Andy McCarthy, Tony Alagna)
    6. Don’t Fence Me In (Dexter Dunn, Tony Alagna)
    7. Niki Hill (Dexter Dunn, Chris Ryder)
    8. Lyons Serenity (Tim Tetrick, Jim King Jr.)
    9. Boudoir Hanover (Todd McCarthy, Tony Alagna)
    10. Sea Silk (Chris Page, Ron Burke)

    If you look at the top earners in Post 94 you will see that this field contains 6 of the top 10 fillies
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    Here is another serious 2yo filly for you
    Amore Vita had her first start in the country at Bendigo tonight and "blasted them off the park"
    Despite drawing the 2nd row she worked to the death and ran the fastest mile rate of the night - even though 4 of the races were over a shorter distance

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...21#BNC26102108
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    Tiger Tara's first foal goes 1.53.9 to set a track record

    https://harnesslink.com/australia/all-hail-the-king/
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