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    Adam Kelly had Major Meister up until Nov 5

    I notice the other horses he had trained around that time are all with other stables too

    What has become of Adam Kelly ?
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    Major Meister, 2 starts ago (his last for Adam Kelly), on Nov 5 just 6 weeks ago
    MM $7 and Rick Reilly $9 were in the same race at Melton and Rick led and came 2nd while MM sat in the death and finished 44m behind Rick
    Tonight drawn next to each other MM started $3.40 and Rick $151

    ???????

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#MXM05112201
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    I feel a real good yarn brewing courtesy of PP about this race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Major Meister, 2 starts ago (his last for Adam Kelly), on Nov 5 just 6 weeks ago
    MM $7 and Rick Reilly $9 were in the same race at Melton and Rick led and came 2nd while MM sat in the death and finished 44m behind Rick
    Tonight drawn next to each other MM started $3.40 and Rick $151

    ???????

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#MXM05112201
    Watching Trotsvision tonight I learned that J Crimson is an expert in minor gear adjustments that get the most out of horses....I would argue its probably some "major gear" adjustment!
    Last edited by Theoldfox; 12-18-2022 at 12:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoldfox View Post
    Watching Trotsvision tonight I learned that J Crimson is an expert in minor gear adjustments that get the most out of horses....I would argue its probably some "major gear" adjustment!
    There is gear, I.e., harness, and there is THE gear - with neither strap nor buckle in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Adam Kelly had Major Meister up until Nov 5

    I notice the other horses he had trained around that time are all with other stables too

    What has become of Adam Kelly ?
    Adam is pretty crook at the moment - wishing him all the best

    https://nationaltrotguide.com.au/tra...cancer-battle/
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    Good luck to you with your battle Adam, you have a task much more difficult than making Cup horses out of old rogue horses. Every day you get out of bed, have breakfast and tick off any minor task is a win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Major Meister, 2 starts ago (his last for Adam Kelly), on Nov 5 just 6 weeks ago
    MM $7 and Rick Reilly $9 were in the same race at Melton and Rick led and came 2nd while MM sat in the death and finished 44m behind Rick
    Tonight drawn next to each other MM started $3.40 and Rick $151

    ???????

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#MXM05112201
    Go back one more start to October 21 and Major Meister $16 finishes 3rd to Hes Ideal $1.22 winner

    Yet Saturday, No.1 Hes Ideal starts $8.50 and No.4 Major Meister $3.40 as previously stated

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#MXM21102202

    That makes 2 massive market reversals NOT based on head to head performances
    (plus both Rick and Ideal had been in winning form before Saturday)

    It was as if everybody believed Major Meister in a mere month with Grimson HAD GROWN AN EXTRA LEG

    and I suppose it was true as only a fortnight after getting him MM started $1.75 and ran his fastest ever time donkey licking the opposition which included Rick at $11

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#BAM26112202

    Some are saying we are all being taken for a ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Go back one more start to October 21 and Major Meister $16 finishes 3rd to Hes Ideal $1.22 winner

    Yet Saturday, No.1 Hes Ideal starts $8.50 and No.4 Major Meister $3.40 as previously stated

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#MXM21102202

    That makes 2 massive market reversals NOT based on head to head performances
    (plus both Rick and Ideal had been in winning form before Saturday)

    It was as if everybody believed Major Meister in a mere month with Grimson HAD GROWN AN EXTRA LEG

    and I suppose it was true as only a fortnight after getting him MM started $1.75 and ran his fastest ever time donkey licking the opposition which included Rick at $11

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...22#BAM26112202

    Some are saying we are all being taken for a ride
    Only the Three Wise Monkeys could honestly look at the facts and find everything is fine. Unfortunately, those given the responsibility of enforcing the highest level of integrity in our sport choose to either not look or ignore the facts that strongly suggest the improvement in these horses is unnatural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showgrounds View Post
    Only the Three Wise Monkeys could honestly look at the facts and find everything is fine. Unfortunately, those given the responsibility of enforcing the highest level of integrity in our sport choose to either not look or ignore the facts that strongly suggest the improvement in these horses is unnatural.
    Very much what happened in WA in the 80s.

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