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    Geelong would be happy with this field for the Cup on Saturday night

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...23#GEC21102301
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    Does anybody remember RNR Who being overraced and getting tired 12 months ago? Here he is backing up after he was virtually the only horse in the Vic Cup that peaked on their run (LTF and Better Eclipse the others). Sure I would expect him to lead and win this, but how will he be travelling in December Inters?

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    An interesting point Brendan. I don't know that this is quite the same although I agree that an easy month at home followed by a run mid November - a fortnight before the Inter would be the preferred program IMO. Also he usually has a fortnight between runs.
    Last year he went off after an ill considered standing start campaign in NZ. He came back and ran 3rd in the Cranbourne Cup and then failed/was retired from the Bendigo Cup, which should most definitely have been the end of his campaign and a signal/memo that they had gone on too long but instead they had two more runs!
    You would think they may have erred on one less not one more this time (unless they are not planning on contesting the Inter)
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    Does that mean it has burst for Mach Dan too?
    Their runs were pretty much the equal of each other

    Did Michael Stanley do something to you Brendan?
    Remember you rated Mach at 7 and RNRDoo at 9. Has that now changed after a farcical Cup where the Lead time was slower than that of the trotters from the Stand
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    Congratulations to the Zavitsanos's (locals)
    Mach Dan has now had 5 starts at Geelong for 4 wins in not just any old races
    - 2 Geelong Cups
    - 1 Interdominion Heat
    - 1 Flying Brick Rocket
    (his unplaced run was death seating in another Geelong Cup)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    ????????????????????????

    Does that mean it has burst for Mach Dan too?
    Their runs were pretty much the equal of each other

    Did Michael Stanley do something to you Brendan?
    Remember you rated Mach at 7 and RNRDoo at 9. Has that now changed after a farcical Cup where the Lead time was slower than that of the trotters from the Stand
    Not about Stanley just about the industry rating him top or top 2-3 when he clearly was never. Also yes he mathematically had no chance last night - but that never seemed to matter to other horses he beat in past!
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    You will have to explain the image (?)
    So you have a problem with the horse?
    Well not really, more other people's ratings of him - so get stuck into them, not the horse
    ps Not too many horses that he has beat in the past, could complain as he has generally sat in the death
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    Above image = stirring the pot

    So far the horse hasnt responded to my forum posts but those who rated the horse too highly have ��

    The two best wins from the death were Vic Cup and Len Smith. Vic Cup was mathematically impossible for 2nd-4th who were all equal runs and Len Smith was mathematically impossible for anything behind him and Louis was disappointing. Cant remember where he sat Kilmore Cup last year but Honolua Bay was run of the race by a mile. So yes others could complain.

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    Has Dan Mielicki contacted you!

    How can these horses connections/drivers complain when they have the option to go to the death before him or take the death off him
    He sat 3 wide for half a lap of the Kilmore Cup before pushing on to the lead - would have seemed vulnerable if something had the balls to pressure him

    He is in the 10 best horses in the country. We think we know who the top 2 are and by the end of the year we may have a better idea of the order for all of them
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