The career winner of 35 races and $2,383,597- Invitro from Canada.
I will start a thread on this.
Last edited by justdoit; 01-11-2011 at 06:45 AM.
Originally Posted by mango
I don't mind the older mares ... as long as they continue to produce. If you have a look at Soky's number, she hasn't produced a horse of any significance since 1997 - 13 years ago. Having said that, this colt will probably end up being a champion, just to make me look like a total idiot!
Lot 6 - colt, Christian Cullen-Into The Fire. Saw this one back when he was a foal & I liked him straight away. Gut reaction selection.
Just going through the premium sale lots and noticed they are spread out like browns cows which i find outright stupid, if it's a premium sale they should have all the horses in the same spot but instead they have the sunday horses mixed in. I've been told it's an OH&S issue which is a load of crap. This is one step backwards for the A.P.G sale company and to find out that no vendors from past years were consulted is a joke. What they should remember is that the vendors are the people who supply the product which they make money off. They also want people with sunday horses out showing there horses in the parading areas my question for them is if someone has one in the premium sale on that night do you expect him to wait for the person who's yearling isn't selling to 2 day's later.
G'day Mango,
To some degree I can understand where you are coming from with regard to Buyers getting around to inspect them however it is also most definately the case that many Vendors/Preparers with one or more horses in the Premium Sale may also have horses set to sell on the Sunday.
That being the case, as I understand it, the way the APG do things when it comes to the Sale stabling is that each Vendor/Preparer consignment gets stabled together in entirity and I assume this happens unless something else is originally specified/requested by the Vendor.
As for having on site and then showing yearlings that don't sell for another two days, the APG may think it a good idea but they're certainly not about to force anyone to do anything that they do not want to do. Vendors/Preparers can & will make up their own minds about doing that. Some might see it as an opportunity to showcase a yearling they felt should have made it into the Premium Sale but for whatever reason did not? Maybe that's where they're coming from? Anyway, for the most part that will occur only if a complete Vendor/Preparer consignment is there come Friday night and moreso only then if it is felt to be desirable or neccessary. If I had one in the Sunday section I would probably not be comfortable with having it there on the grounds from Friday morning/afternoon/night onwards unless the logistics of getting it there (others in the Friday night session, transport etc) dictated otherwise. Last year in Melbourne there were a number of empty stalls early on and right up until Sale Day morning in some cases.
Hi Mango,
You will have to wear your runners.
Hi Tripev123
Ive spoke to some other vendors and they agreed with me that if a horse is on the grounds and did not make the premium sale they should not be out showing it at all. I do understand that some vendors will have yearlings in the sunday sale and one of the vendors i spoke with has but they reckon having them spread out all over the place will take the buzz and hype out of the sale and they also agreed they should not be on show. The other thing is how come a person with one horse in the premium sale and none in the sunday sale is hidden way down the back in one of the bottom stable's facing the road its the furthest point from the sale ring. And another vendor e-mailed me last night to point out who got the D stable's i didn't take much notice untill it was brought to my attention and i'll leave her comment the A.P.G look after there own. And i do understand that most of them don't turn up to saturday at the earliest so why spread them out so much.
Hi Justdoit
Sorry mate my running days are over and being on crutchers ain't going to help the matter lol.
G'day Mango,
In answer to your questions, I really don't know.
I would have assumed from care & observation aspects & given a number have yearlings in both sessions, Vendors/Preparers wouldn't want their consignments spread out...however maybe there's another school of thought down there? Personally I think it's a good idea to have all the Premium Yearlings stabled close/together...however in fairness to the APG that would have been something for the Vendors and the APG to meet and work out well before now. Everyone selling would have known or should have know that the usual stabling practices, which from what I can see this upcoming sale has again adhered to, would once again be in place.
You've also got me at a distinct disadvantage because while I know Sydney like the back of my hand, the relative locations of the various Barns down in Melbourne don't immediately spring to mind depite having gone there numerous times over the years. I take that Barn D is the most prominent/closest position to the Sale Ring?
In Sydney, basically the same Vendors are in the same places in the same Barns year after year and everyone seems happy enough with that. For example I could go out there and from the gate walk blindfolded to where Success, Brooklyn or Pepper Tree, Golden Gait, Matt Day, Darren Reay and Rainbow Farms will have their consignments . Maybe it's different in Melbourne? Do they move around each year? I can't say that I've noticed one way or the other.
In Sydney our yearlings sometimes arrive Friday night but more often early Saturday morning with the Sale itself always on Sunday. Depends on circumstances. Over the years I've noticed that some of the yearlings out there will cope with it all much better than others. Some just love the change of scenery & are sparky right throughout the process while others very quickly become bored with the walk in-walk out, shake it all about routine and you can see that they've already had enough by Saturday afternoon. If you had one that didn't like being boxed and fiddled about with then you'd be turning up as late on Saturday as you could I guess.
In terms of not having the Premiums spread out because some Sunday session horses don't turn up until late Saturday, it sounds good in theory but practicality wise it just doesn't work. Many, many times in the past some of the Premium session yearlings have still been there on site in the boxes come Sunday and because of the logistics of various transport arrangements they don't start to leave until that afternoon/evening at the earliest and sometimes Monday morning & beyond.
Hi Triplev123
Yeah been to Sydney sale numerous times and you are spot on with where the prepare's are situated and it makes things a lot easier, stable D is the closest to the sale ring and as you would not leave home without your book it's in the front at the start of the premium sale the stable set up. Speaking to someone who has 20+ to go through the sale's this year they had no contact with anyone about this and there been selling for over 20 years. I think if there are any changes A.P.G should send a letter out with your nominating form so you will be able to form an opinion or make a suggestion before changes are made and then if the majority like the way it is thats the way it goes i sometime think they forget who pays there wage's (VENDORS). The other thing is i watch a lot of the racing chanel but have seen no promotions for any of the up and comming A.P.G sale's they'll probably say it's to costly but then again they didn't run the repacharge for the 2yr old colts and geldings last year so where's that $20,000 ?
interesting post mango, did you notice that the apg for 3 yr old fillies is on this week? i now i didnt until today, there supposed to be premium races but no one that doesnt have a horse in the race would know it was coming up
if i was a vendor with a nice type i would have it out the box walking around anyway, you don't want buyers like peter tonkin to miss you lol
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