Karloo kix ok to race, pending enquiry

[The Form Student]

Unfortunately Steve you may be wrong there, I am far from being an analyst however what they will tell you is that swab findings provide what is refereed to a Qualitative Analysis not a Quantitative.

TCO2 cases are different because there is an allowable threshold and perhaps Boldenone also fits into this category because it too has a threshold as I understand it, but in general terms there is not a level provided.

If that is the case, why aren't the results being challenged......surely, it definitely needs to have quantitative support! If I get picked up for PCA by the police......the minimum I want to know is whether it is zero, low, medium or high!............then they will give me the actual reading...........then how qualitative can they be??

[Triple V]

There is indeed a threshold for boldenone. Like TCO2's, an overage has to be quantified.
When it comes to Trainers facing Positives...IMO that's the single biggest problem we face in Harness Racing VOR.
It is a stone colt fact that there are a whole host of substances (I mentioned Bute in another post) that could not possibly be having any effect whatsoever at the levels at which they or their metabolites can still be detected...but nevertheless,as the rules are written a Trainer has a case to answer and can and will get time and/or a fine. Thresholds should be set for a range of therapeutic substances, above which a Trainer has a case to answer, below which they do not. Furthermore, it is my belief that levels must be provided in each and every case. Positives must be quantified. I'm surprised someone who has scored a positive for, again, Bute for example, hasn't taken it further for a quantitative report and then fought it on that basis. There definitely are testing testing methods available which indicate if it had been administered 12-24-36-48-72-96 hrs ago or more. They frequently use them in the US & CAN. Perhaps our Testing people already do this but because it is currently carried out on a Yes it is present or No it is not basis, they simply do not record/publish/pass on same?

[clumsy]

HRNSW PENALTY GUIDELINES
PENALTY GUIDELINES FOR THERAPEUTIC SUBSTANCES AND TCO2 POSITIVES
First Offences Only
• Penalty commencements – 12 month disqualification
• Discounts that may be applied for guilty plea – 2 months
• Licensee records – 1 month discount per 5 years of clean record under rule 19
*For exemplary records where it is found that a person has not offended under this Rule for a period of 20 Years, Suspensions of License may be substituted for disqualifications. Furthermore in extenuating circumstances fines may be applied
**Whilst the above template should be followed where possible, the circumstances of the case and class of the drug may also result in variations of template guidelines being substituted

This may help understand how these penalties are determined by stewards.

[Thevoiceofreason]

HRNSW PENALTY GUIDELINES
PENALTY GUIDELINES FOR THERAPEUTIC SUBSTANCES AND TCO2 POSITIVES
First Offences Only
• Penalty commencements – 12 month disqualification
• Discounts that may be applied for guilty plea – 2 months
• Licensee records – 1 month discount per 5 years of clean record under rule 19
*For exemplary records where it is found that a person has not offended under this Rule for a period of 20 Years, Suspensions of License may be substituted for disqualifications. Furthermore in extenuating circumstances fines may be applied
**Whilst the above template should be followed where possible, the circumstances of the case and class of the drug may also result in variations of template guidelines being substituted

This may help understand how these penalties are determined by stewards.

In most case the penalties have been very close to theses guidelines, remembering of course the guidelines only deal with first offence matters.

[broncobrad]

Barry to fight on...

http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=96534

[The Form Student]

It will be interesting to see what Luke McCarthy decides to plead? This case is getting strange!

[broncobrad]

http://www.hrnsw.com.au/assets/files...%20B%20Lew.pdf

Yesterday the appeal by Barry was dismissed. The process of swab collection was put under the microscope and there was not enough evidence to suggest any short comings of the procedure adopted by the swab attendant Ms Morgan. The question of a contaminant being introduced during the collection process was found to be speculative and not enough to sway the tribunal.

HRNSW sought costs of $45,000. Thats right $45,000.

The amount ordered to be paid was $5,000.

It sort of makes you wonder where this puts the appeal of Mr L McCarthy right now. In chess the right thing to do is say 'On Guard', you are one move away from Checkmate.