Reply With QuoteI can remember old Challenge Proof trained by Lou Cini, ploughing through the mud off a backmark to win the Renshaw Cup!........what an effort!
Thought about heading down the M4 on Thursday night. Driving from Paddo to Penrith of an evening in that traffic ? well I would have, only they've turned something a little unique in NSW, a 50K Standing Start to just another Carnival Of Cups race.
Good field yeah but when did they screw the Renshaw Cup ?
My guess, they got the calculator out and a Standing Start has a $1000 less turnover on average than a Mobile. Forget tradition
I can remember old Challenge Proof trained by Lou Cini, ploughing through the mud off a backmark to win the Renshaw Cup!........what an effort!
Last edited by The Form Student; 04-03-2012 at 10:57 PM.
I too liked the standing starts for the Renshaw Cup but what a great race meeting it's going to be, 2 races at $11,300, 6 races at $12,000 and the Renshaw Cup $50,000. Well done Penrith and NSW Harness Racing committees.
Agree, the back-up program has good fields also......Vic seems to have a lot more stands than NSW...........for the Renshaw Cup, it was something you took in your stride, it does not affect the quality of horses........you just need to give them plenty of barrier jumps out!
I think this is the 2nd year as a mobile event.Originally Posted by Harold Parker
I just hope we can win it
Are you sure it was Lou Cini. I remember Challenge Proof being trained by Vic Frost for most of his career.
Yes, he was trained by Vic for most of his career, but I think he had some injury problems and Greg Brodie moved him to Lou, who also trained his other good horse Karamea Bubble?.........I am not sure if Greg owned the other good horse Karamea Duplicity, also trained by Lou. I am not sure at all about what I have said, but can remember Lou coming into betting ring after Challenge proof won the Renshaw Cup off 20 metres? But don't quote me on that. I wish we had a database of all the old trotting records so that we could access them! Hopefully, Penrith will print all the past winners in the racebook and someone will let us know? I'm not sure, but I suppose it was about 1980?
I found a chronicle of Renshaw Cup winners on the HRA website and found that Challenge Proof won the race twice
1977 (W McLelland) fr $5500 - (L Cini would have been the trainer)
1978 (V Frost) 10m $5500
"I just hope we can win it"
So do I. Oh, sorry Mr Kaplan I refer to The Captain of course.
Thanks, Trev, after sleeping on it, Karamea Duplicity was owned by Noel Simpson.........Challenge Proof therefore, won the cup when he was a 6 and 7 Y/O, he was a tough "old bugger".......there goes my thoughts of him coming off 20 metres........I wonder whatever happened to Wayne Mclelland, Lou also had another good driver that used to drive for him for a lot of years, Rob Martin .........maybe "Where are they Now"? can help tell us what they are up to? I will go and have a look at the HRA website!
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