Presidential Ball as a broodmare sire/Northern Luck as a Sire info required.

[Kevin Dinnigan]

Presidential Ball as a broodmare sire/Northern Luck as a Sire info required.

Hi All.
I am a small Australian private breeder, can anyone help me with information regarding Presidential Ball as a broodmare sire. What bloodline mares work with this sire, progeny etc.
Any data out of US breeding would be great.
Also Northern Luck a son of Camluck, what mares bloodlines as produced winning progeny in the US. Any info welcomed and any info to point me in the direction to gain info.
Look forward to responses..
Happy Breeding.
Kevin.

[Toohard]

Gday Kevin

Have you looked at the Classic Families website?

Go here www.peppertreefarm.org

Click on Breeders World up the top. Then click on Classic Families. Enter Presidential Ball in the box.
When the screen comes up click on the Classic Crosses tab. Gives you a list of all horses that have won classic races that are out of Presidential Ball mares. Shows sires, horse name, etc. Can sort the list by clicking on the column headings. Also can click on any of the underlined fields to 'dig deeper'. Its not a list of all winners just classic winners (if you click on Classic Races up the top it gives you a list of what they are).


Also if you go here http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...nline-rpts.htm there are all sorts of reports (including broodmare sires reports) that are now available for free. You need to register first (tells you how to do it on that page above) to get a username\password. But all free.

Cheers

[mightymo]

Hi Kevin

Pres Ball's best individual broodmare sire credit to date is Not Enough who is by Grinfromeartoear.

Overall though, PB mares have crossed well with Western Hanover and his sons. One of the better 3yos going round in the US at the moment is Simpy Business who is by Rocknroll Hanover.

He has also had good success with sons of Artsplace as well as crossing well with Mach Three and Apaches Fame.

To date PB mares have only produced 2 millionaires - one by Grin and one by Mach Three.

Regards

Harvey

[Kevin Dinnigan]

Hey Harvey...
Thanks for the reply.
What i am looking for is any progeny out of PB mares sired by Camluck/Big Towner bloodline sires.
The USTA site is expensive to gain info.
Once again thanks
Take Care.
KevinD

[mightymo]

In the US, PB mares have had limited success with Sportsmaster and Camotion, but nothing i would get too excited about.

i have a PB mare myself, and I am looking at Western Hanover or Artsplace lines or Mach Three/Courage Under Fire

[HISGEN65]

Thanks for posting this Kevin as I have a PB mare retiring this year.
Thanks also to the kind people who have taken the time to post their thoughts
Much appreciated

cheers

[Kevin Dinnigan]

Hi Paul..
Thanks for reply..Yep done all that..Just wanted any extra info out of the USA, The USTA website costs for every entry you search and it's not cheap.
Checked out the NZ data base but not a great deal to go on. I know that Artsplace sires are a good cross with this sire;s bloodlines, but looking for options.
Thanks anyway...
Best Regards..
KevinD.

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[Triple V]

Wearable Art, flashed early & brilliantly, very promising but got hurt & was never the same. Shows a lot of heart here for the length of the Big M stretch to hold off The Quiet Mon in the 2007 Berrys Creek Final. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIGLF...feature=relmfu

[dizzy]

Jamie with the "quite a few" better performers closely linebred to Cam Fella on the sire line what is that %age wise to number of foals bred that way as that is the telling statistic? Don't know the colt Wearable Art but will take it he was a very nice colt. For those into breeding theories his dams grand sire Cam Fella would appear to be good match for the principle of returning to the sire the best blood of his dam, but as his dam is also directly descended from the same female family (Miss Duvall, the most prolific family in modern times) as Art Major in that Rotate is a full sister to Romola Hanover (hall of fame broodmare) a son of Artsplace over this female family may also have something to do with this colts ability. Of course it could all have just been luck. For mine Kevin/James you need to delve a bit further back into the mares pedigree then just the sire to make informed decisions