What a MASSIVE WANK!

[Triple V]

An early look at the NSW TAB results show todays turnover was below last Mondays Bankstown meeting and well, well below the Monday menangle meeting a fortnight ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U?
To many, I suspect not in the slightest.For anyone in any area of the Industry to have, at any stage, entertained thoughts that it would be otherwise merely underlines that they’re delusional or otherwise saluting the flag & lining up with the greater philosophy behind all this crap...the NSW TAB's rather thinly disguised desire to turn Harness Racing into a 1000m equine version of the churn and burn that is Dog Lotto.

Rgds

Jaimie

[broncobrad]

For half a race they had half the prizemoney? Seems fair....

C'mon Glen, they aren't paying them by the metre in prizemoney. If they were looking for curtain material, then that would be different. They are racing on the flagship track of NSW, participants are providing the product and if they go well enough, deserve to be recompensed as equally as they would be any other Monday they race at Menangle. To draw a comparison (which may help shoot myself in the foot), men and women get equal prizemoney in tennis, even though the girls only have to play three sets.

[broncobrad]

[VVV] G'day Brad. Can't follow your line of thinking there. Why should the NSWHRC feel in any way compelled to fully fund an excursion into the absurd by HRNSW which comes at the behest of the NSWTAB?

Hey Jaimie, hope those muffins tasted good. Similarly, along the same lines as my response to G Mac. After all the trumpeting about increased prizemoney in NSW, the club does not support the connections who supported the concept. Smacks a bit of 5 bob eachway to me. If the mugs do bring their nags to the track and the concept is deemed a failure, NSWHRC can turn around and say we didn't outlay a lot, not much damage done and move on to the next initiative. But if the NSWHRC had the courage to stand by their conviction in that if they are going to hold the series at Menangle, then they should meet their obligations (obligations may be too strong a word) as they always do on a Monday afternoon and put up the $5,000 prizemoney they normally do.

Some quick comparisons of yesterdays day meetings reveal that while they raced for $3,000 in Sydney, they compared poorly to Charlton $5,000 and Pinjarra mostly $5,700. Thats a disgrace and is little reward for NSW participants who supported the concept.

They race at Bankstown for $3,000 on Mondays, thats a given. But when at Menangle on Monday afternoons it is always $5,000. Why should these guys get penalised? What makes them second rate particpants? They did actually race at a registered meeting. It wasn't a gymkhana. And I thought the racing was great.

[Triple V]

The Club is BULLI Brad, not Menangle.
They raced at Menangle, it is a Bulli Club 'R' meeting for applicable prizemoney.
They're not 2nd rate participants by any means however by and large those are horses that are struggling to win a quid anywhere else and for them a shot at a 3k Heat/12k Final does not come along often, if at all...if ever.
I think the concept is a real wank... but the opportunity for the owners of those horses to get $$$something$$$ back is obviously too good to refuse.

[Triple V]

Btw Brad, before you sink the slipper too deeply into the NSWHRC, you'll note that at today's Menangle meeting and for all subsequent meetings they've kicked the official tin along to the tune of each 'C' class race going off for $7,000 as opposed to the previous $5,500...and this they did entirely of their own volition and from the proceeds of the Race Fields Legislation due the Club. It comes from nowhere else but their own account.
One wonders what other Clubs will do with theirs? Will they similarly kick the tins at their tracks?

[broncobrad]

The Club is BULLI Brad, not Menangle.
They raced at Menangle, it is a Bulli Club 'R' meeting for applicable prizemoney.
They're not 2nd rate participants by any means however by and large those are horses that are struggling to win a quid anywhere else and for them a shot at a 3k Heat/12k Final does not come along often, if at all...if ever.
I think the concept is a real wank... but the opportunity for the owners of those horses to get $$$something$$$ back is obviously too good to refuse.

Jaimie it was Bulli at Menangle on the 4 June and 18 June at Menangle as well when they raced for $5,000, not the $3,000 they put on yesterday. And yes there is a $12,000 final which is great, but don't you think it is a bit of a disservice (is that spelt right?) to the owners who would normally race for higher P/M at these meetings? ( putting aside that you think its a wank )

[Triple V]

That is still not the NSWHRC, that is Bulli.

[broncobrad]

Btw Brad, before you sink the slipper too deeply into the NSWHRC, you'll note that at today's Menangle meeting and for all subsequent meetings they've kicked the official tin along to the tune of each 'C' class race going off for $7,000 as opposed to the previous $5,500...and this they did entirely of their own volition and from the proceeds of the Race Fields Legislation due the Club. It comes from nowhere else but their own account.
One wonders what other Clubs will do with theirs? Will they similarly kick the tins at their tracks?

And that is great. Who knows what other clubs will do. They all have their own little issues.

[aussiebreno]

All the heat and final series around Wagga have $3000 (restricted) heats and a $5000 (country) final.
Not sure there is much in it tbh brad.

[David Summers]

I watched this snorefest yesterday. Nothing against struggling owners, trainers or drivers trying to earn a few bucks , but PLEASE , as any sort of spectacle or betting proposition , was pathetic.

Interested to hear Fred Hastings before the first race ( and I am certain it was tongue in cheek / sarcasm) , that " APPARENTLY Harness NSW officials had a lot of feedback saying they wanted shorter races and use of greyhound rug colours for drivers". Note his use of the word "apparently".

No I don't believe a word of the so-called overwhelming request from the harness fraternity / public for races shorter than one mile and if you want to see greyhound rug colours in races stick to Wentworth Park dogs.

I think another three weeks of this rubbish concept , then please bury it forever.