Sires- Blue Chip Australasian Breeders Crown Finals

[Triple V]

2yo Pacing Fillies
5 x Art Major, 2 x Bettor's Delight, 2 x Mach Three, 1 each to Four Starzzz Shark & Jermes Jet.

2yo Pacing Colts & Geldings
3 x Bettor's Delight, 1 each to Christian Cullen, Presidential Ball, Four Starzzz Shark, Blissfull Hall, American Ideal, Mach Three, Art Major & Riverboat King.

3yo Pacing Fillies
2 x Bettor's Delight, 2 x Art Major, 2 x Mach Three, 1 each to Live Or Die, Yankee Sensation, Armbro Operative, Falcon Seelster, Artsplace & Mcardle.

3yo Pacing Colts & Geldings
3 x by Mach Three , 2 X Bettor's Delight, 1 each to Blissfull Hall, Real Desire, Art Major, McArdle, Village Jasper, Riverboat King & Life Sign.

4yo Pacing Mares
4 x Bettor's Delight, 2 x Presidential Ball, 2 x Christian Cullen, 1 each to Dream Away, Falcon Seelster, Village Jasper & Armbro Operative.

4yo Pacing Entires & Geldings
5 x Bettor's Delight, 2 x Christian Cullen, 2 x Blissfull Hall, 1 each to Aces N Sevens, Village Jasper & Mach Three.

[Triple V]

Most represented.
Bettor's Delight- 18
Art Major- 9
Mach Three- 8
Christian Cullen-5
Blissfull Hall- 4
Village Jasper-3
Presidential Ball-3

[eliteblood]

Bettors Delight, Art Major, Mach Three and Christian Cullen.
No surprises there Jaimie, the best 4 stallions in this part of the world over the last few years - all very good.

[Big Max]

Bettors Delight in my opinion is an out and out superstar stallion with CC right up alongside him.

[Triple V]

Their dam sires make for interesting reading too, if only because it seems to reveal absolutely nothing.

Dam Sires- Blue Chip Australasian Breeders Crown Finals

2yo Pacing Fillies
2 x Fake Left, 1 each to In The Pocket, Presidential Ball, Falcon Seelster, Albert Albert, Armbro Operative, Badlands Hanover, Holmes Hanover, Christian Cullen & Beach Towel.

2yo Pacing Colts & Geldings
2 x Soky's Atom, 1 each to Falcon Seelster, In The Pocket, Artsplace, Badlands Hanover, Albert Albert, Entrepreneur, Village Jasper, Holmes Hanover & Panorama.

3yo Pacing Fillies
2 x Safely Kept, 2 x Armbro Operative, 1 each to Muckalee Strike, Windshield Wiper, Mystical Shark, Albert Albert, Walton Hanover, Jennas Beach Boy, Die Laughing & Soky's Atom.

3yo Pacing Colts & Geldings
2 x Holmes Hanover, 1 each to In The Pocket, Albert Albert, Soky's Atom, Vintner, Abercrombie, Falcon Seelster, Tompkins Hanover, Butler BG, Safely Kept & Vanston Hanover.

4yo Pacing Mares
3 x New York Motoring, 3 x Holmes Hanover, 1 each to Sands A Flyin, Caprock, Northern Lights, Troublemaker, Golden Reign & Placid Victor.

4yo Pacing Entires & Geldings
2 x Classic Garry, 2 x Safely Kept, 2 x Perfect Art, 1 each to Live Or Die, Armbro Operative, Armbro Aussie, Echelon, In The Pocket & Soky's Atom.

[Triple V]

Bettors Delight in my opinion is an out and out superstar stallion with CC right up alongside him.

He's got a double edged sword to him because gets them going early and a large number of those go on at 3yrs and keep going at 4+. Highview Tommy's a good example. A 2005 foal, he was NZ 2yo Colt of the Year, still racing in 2012 in top company as a now rising 7yo.

[aussiebreno]

Where are the older Art Majors???

Strong form with Bettors Delight having 9x 4yos.

[mango]

Bettors Delight is doing a super job producing winner's everywhere, number's on the ground also helps his case.

[Triple V]

Not sure Breno. Sushi Sushi would have been there and would probably have won it only that he got sore. Bettor's Delight is leaving a gritty, sound, genuine Cam Fella/Cam's Card Shark attribute in his stock. From 2yrs through to Aged, they show up week in, week out, ready to race & to give of their best on the day. I think that's the main reason why so many of them race on into the aged ranks.

[eliteblood]

So what does everyone think about Roll With Joe's siring prospects ?

John Peck made an interesting comment in his HRI magazine,
"Plenty of discussion about who was the better horse, however, something missing from most discussions is the quality of the opposition.
The 1998 crop that Bettor's Delight belonged to produced only eight 1:52 2YOlds (Bettor's Delight was not one), the fastest being Real Desire 2,1:50.8 while the 2008 crop that Roll With Joe belonged to produced 29 1:52 2YOlds including three in 1:50.
Even when one looks at the horses that finished in the placings in the five big ones that Bettor's Delight competed in - Real Desire, Klingon Hanover, Hawaiian Cowboy, Horselaughter, Four Starzzz Shark, Lotsa Clout, Bagel Beach Boy - there is fair argument to suggest that they were not as good as Roll With Joe's opposition."