Group Racing

[Danno]

50k is Group 2
100k is Group 1 I think.
My argument is not that these monetary goal posts should be shifted but that for an open age race to receive group 2 status but be restricted to horses c2-c4 seems absurd. Open age Group racing should be exactly that. Open. Regardless of crowd size. Nowhere in Australia do they gave a group 2 M0 or Group 2 c0. This race just seems absurdly graded as a group 2 in comparison to every other race on our open age group racing calendar.

Gee Grant, you really have completely missed Ron's point haven't you?

You have fairly consistently said on this thread that " of course money should be the criteria" but apparently now that's just for open age races?

Whilst you have have been pretty keen to point out Ron has missed YOUR point, ( if that could be clarified mate that would be good because you seem to keep on changing your tune).

And now you have made the claim that because "Nowhere in Australia do they gave a group 2 M0 or Group 2 c0" a restricted front race carrying group status is "absurd".

In an earlier response to your thread I asked you should the APG have group status, as it is not open to all 2yo's, so far you have not responded, do I take from that you have no opinion? or are you still forming one?

No wonder Ron has given up trying to make HIS point, you and Triple are like a couple of scratched vinyls, ie: making the point that nobody "gets your point" whilst completely ignoring the argument of others.

Listening is a skill.
Cheers,
Dan

[Gtrain]

I understand APG is a murky area Dan I agree however are you comparing Maitland to the APG? Any yearling owner can pay up for the APG series so is that much different to paying nomination fees for the Golden Slipper? Do you honestly believe the APG should not be group listed? We are lucky in the trots that our MAJOR sale all falls under the one heading across Australia. I still in all your rant cannot see any justification of an open age restricted race being group listed. $$ should be A criteria. Not THE criteria.

My point remains the same. Open age races, to be group listed should not be restricted.

[Danno]

Of course money should be the criteria.

$$ should be A criteria. Not THE criteria.

Good to see that your point remains the same Grant, and as far as "Open age races, to be group listed should not be restricted." that point mate is just your opinion,which differs from mine and differs also with the HRA guidelines.

[2minuteman]

Ron you have missed the point. Of course money should be the criteria.

Your comment "Of course money should be the criteria." Not mine.

[Gtrain]

Good to see that your point remains the same Grant, and as far as "Open age races, to be group listed should not be restricted." that point mate is just your opinion,which differs from mine and differs also with the HRA guidelines.

Of course it's an opinion. Isn't that what we use forums for? Is strange though the race in question is the ONLY group 2 race in Australasia for open age pacers that is restricted. It differs in grading to every other race on the Australian calendar in both gallops and trots.

[Mark Croatto]

Of course it's an opinion. Isn't that what we use forums for? Is strange though the race in question is the ONLY group 2 race in Australasia for open age pacers that is restricted. It differs in grading to every other race on the Australian calendar in both gallops and trots.

Grant, there are a few others; The Carousel C2-C5 ($50k Group 2), the Tontine C2-C4 ($30k Group 3), the Premiers Cup C2-C5 ($50k Group 2).

Regards

Mark

[Gtrain]

Grant, there are a few others; The Carousel C2-C5 ($50k Group 2), the Tontine C2-C4 ($30k Group 3), the Premiers Cup C2-C5 ($50k Group 2).

Regards

Mark

Thanks Mark. I knew of the tontine but overlooked others. The Maitland isn't as one out as I thought.