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    S.A.Cup

    Not taking anything away from smokinup but do they let horse win by goimg inside marker pegs in S.A

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    http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...L311211&ms=nsw

    Check race 2. In NSW they don't. 30m wasn't quite a big enough margin.

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    winner of that race was diaqualified
    same should have happend to smokenup

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    Everyone knows that Smoken Up does not handle the bends well. When a horse like him is uncomfortable on the bend and wanting to drift down the track, it will tend to lose ground the more you try to keep it straight.
    It is possible, likely even, that Carribean Blaster would have pinched a bigger break if Lance had done what he should have done according to the rules and not allow SU to drift down inside the pegs.
    He could easily have been disqualified IMO

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    I am not going to take anything away from Smoken Up either, I was cheering allllll the way up the straight for him!!!

    His going inside the pegs hardly compares to Nathan Jack on Eurasian Hanover at Melton last week and he held the race (as I pointed out on another thread that no-one was interested in commenting on). http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#MXM04011312

    Nobody wants to say anything until it occurs in a major race and all of sudden its worthy of discussion. Again, it is the inconsistency of enforcement by the powers that be that creates grey areas that drivers can capitalise on. They are the ones who are failing here.

    Once again, great win by the champ...did my heart good. Thumbs down to Adam Mitch who tarnished Come On Franks Facebook page this morning with his comment of "beaten by a cheat (justice) no shame in that"... pretty weak to post derogatory stuff on the SA hometown heros page.

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    Wow great race, great fight by both horses!!!
    Trigger obviously the ultimate fighter congrats on equalling another great staying fighter Gammalites record of 4 SA Cups.
    Caribbean Blaster fantastic to death seat, grabbed the lead, but just wilted in the last 30m, we will see a lot more from this guy in the next coming years.
    And to those who question why Trigger wouldn't go to Perth to face Captain Invincible... Have u heard of sentiment?
    Lance is from SA, he was shooting for 4 Cups...sometimes and rarely, it's more about these things than money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maorisidol View Post
    Wow great race, great fight by both horses!!!
    Trigger obviously the ultimate fighter congrats on equalling another great staying fighter Gammalites record of 4 SA Cups.
    Caribbean Blaster fantastic to death seat, grabbed the lead, but just wilted in the last 30m, we will see a lot more from this guy in the next coming years.
    And to those who question why Trigger wouldn't go to Perth to face Captain Invincible... Have u heard of sentiment?
    Lance is from SA, he was shooting for 4 Cups...sometimes and rarely, it's more about these things than money...
    Somebodys got a complex.

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    But Ash, you have side stepped the question put by gregcattell...... should Smoken Up have been disqualified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Atom View Post
    But Ash, you have side stepped the question put by gregcattell...... should Smoken Up have been disqualified?
    No worries Rod,
    If any driver blatantly goes beyond the pegs like half a cart to obviously gain an advantage then that's wrong, it's also stupid because its blatantly obvious and he/she gets a holiday immediately.
    But if Quinn, Smoken Up, a CO horse in the country goes where Trigger went in the SA Cup, from what I could see about 2-3 inches beyond only 2 pegs AND IMPORTANTLY wins by a clear margin that did not gain a sufficient advantage to be questioned by any other runner, then Quinn, Trigger the CO horse win the race. It was clear that no sufficient advantage was gained to me to effect the outcome.
    However if Trigger won by a nose then Caribbean Blaster has every right to protest.
    There u go Rod, how's that?

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    have a closer look and count it was more than 2 pegs not just the last turn it happened on same corner lap before bell too

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