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    However, all I ask for is consistency.
    Harvey with all due respect, consistency was what my post was all about...we need to talk the talk, AND walk the walk.
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    I am very happy to take on the "consistency" challenge. I expect you and others will have no problem doing the same.

    Hopefully we will all be able to find more positive stories to discuss...

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    Mightymo, are you suggesting the stewards are going harder/targetting/singling out/treating differently (whatever you want to call it) the McCarthys to other participants?

    Edit: Why do you want more 'positive' stories?
    Last edited by aussiebreno; 01-21-2013 at 12:03 PM.

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    Edit: Why do you want more 'positive' stories?

    Cute Brendan.

    Boort...Did anyone have a problem with C.Alford on Daylight Dan? I see he has a QDT & really can not understand why. He led & ran them along & ran a great 3rd to the top Restrepo.

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    I watched that race Mary and thought the drive was daring, but hey it nearly got the job done too, the others got to Daylight Dan, but when they did they were going up and down on the one spot, so in my estimation the drive was also not far off the mark. Having said that I'm not familiar with the horses racing history other than it had won it's previous 4 starts, maybe it was a drive that was completely upside down to how the horse normally races? Reckon I might have a snoop around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    Same driver struck again in race 8 at Wagga today. Attacked from three wide the same as he did at Temora.
    RACE 8 – WAGGA BOULEVARDE MOTOR INN PACE. 1755M
    Connections of FLITEOFTHECONCORDS advised their intention to vary tactics and drive the gelding further back. Driven accordingly.
    STUDLEIGH MATTHEW was checked and broke after the start when COLD SHARK which was drawn to his outside hung in after the start and MISTER MANHATTAN which was drawn to his inside hung out after the start. No action was taken against any horse or driver due to the marginal shift from both runners.
    A.Richardson was questioned regarding the tactics he adopted and performance of COLD SHARK. A. Richardson stated that he progressed forward at the start with the intention of taking up a forward position which is COLD SHARK’S usual racing pattern. A. Richardson stated that near the 1500 metres it was evident that P. Diebert on MISTER MANHATTAN would not surrender the position outside the leader therefore he steadied COLD SHARK and sat back off the leading horses. A. Richardson stated COLD SHARK races keenly and he is unable to restrain him to the rear of the field, therefore he elected to remain racing three wide for the remainder of the short distance race. A. Richardson stated he was pleased with COLD SHARK’S performance at a recent trial where he ran second in a fast 1:57.5 mile rate, however stated that two races and a trial in one week, together with the extreme heat may have adversely affected COLD SHARK. A. Richardson further stated it was his intention to give COLD SHARK a freshen up before racing him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary View Post
    IMO, Darren sure did try & soften MA. But didn't come off. Should have been some questions asked.
    Race before Micky M has a please explain.
    When questioned regarding the tactics employed on DEE DEVITO between the 1600 metres and the 1200 metres when the tempo increased significantly, Trainer/driver M Muscat explained that it was his intention to maintain the position outside of the leader throughout and when GLOBAL VIEW improved three wide to its outside near the 1600 metres he commenced to drive his runner with a level of vigour to maintain this position as he was concerned that if GLOBAL VIEW was allowed to race forward of DEE DEVITO it may be able to cross to the lead. M Muscat added that he had formed the view that that runner is one of the hardest to beat therefore DEE DEVITO was better suited by racing in its favourite position outside of the leader. M Muscat added that he placed significant pressure on the leader TOKYO DRIFT NZ near the 1400 metres as he was of the opinion that that gelding would surrender. However TOKYO DRIFT NZ commenced to overrace making the lead unattainable. M Muscat’s explanation was noted.
    When questioned regarding the tactics employed on TOKYO DRIFT NZ during the middle stages driver L Panella explained that she had been instructed to lead and then obtain cover if challenged. L Panella added that when challenged by DEE DEVITO in the middle stages her offside ear plug had released prematurely and consequently the gelding overraced due to the vigour that was being applied to DEE DEVITO making it impossible for TOKYO DRIFT NZ to be restrained in order to take cover. L Panella’s explanation was noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary View Post
    RACE 8 – WAGGA BOULEVARDE MOTOR INN PACE. 1755M
    Connections of FLITEOFTHECONCORDS advised their intention to vary tactics and drive the gelding further back. Driven accordingly.
    STUDLEIGH MATTHEW was checked and broke after the start when COLD SHARK which was drawn to his outside hung in after the start and MISTER MANHATTAN which was drawn to his inside hung out after the start. No action was taken against any horse or driver due to the marginal shift from both runners.
    A.Richardson was questioned regarding the tactics he adopted and performance of COLD SHARK. A. Richardson stated that he progressed forward at the start with the intention of taking up a forward position which is COLD SHARK’S usual racing pattern. A. Richardson stated that near the 1500 metres it was evident that P. Diebert on MISTER MANHATTAN would not surrender the position outside the leader therefore he steadied COLD SHARK and sat back off the leading horses. A. Richardson stated COLD SHARK races keenly and he is unable to restrain him to the rear of the field, therefore he elected to remain racing three wide for the remainder of the short distance race. A. Richardson stated he was pleased with COLD SHARK’S performance at a recent trial where he ran second in a fast 1:57.5 mile rate, however stated that two races and a trial in one week, together with the extreme heat may have adversely affected COLD SHARK. A. Richardson further stated it was his intention to give COLD SHARK a freshen up before racing him again.
    You can blame the weather, the float trip, the race tempo, the trial, the horses racing style but at the end of the day there is only one thing to blame and I think everybody knows that.

    While you've bought up a section from a Wagga stewards report here is something from Race 2 on Friday.

    RACE 2 – WAGGA TAB NUMBER 1 CLUB PACE. 1755M
    The all clear was delayed to allow stewards the opportunity to review the replay of the start, in particular the starting position of CLOUDY BEACH which was placed first by the judge. The evidence disclosed that due to a scratching on the front row, SIZZLING MAXWELL should have started from barrier two, however SIZZLING MAXWELL remained in barrier three, which resulted in no horse starting out of barrier two. CLOUDY BEACH which was drawn barrier eight was pulling hard and racing keenly in the score up and at the starting point CLOUDY BEACH had its front legs in a front line position, effectively between the horse in barrier one and the horse in barrier three. Soon after the start CLOUDY BEACH was able to fully progress through into the front line and lead the race by the first turn. Acting under Rule 66(h) CLOUDY BEACH was disqualified from the race as it gained an unfair advantage by starting further forward than its second row barrier position. The all clear was then given on the numbers 3-6-7-5.
    G. Maxwell (SIZZLING MAXWELL) was fined $200 under Rule 162(1)(g) for starting from the incorrect barrier position.
    It was noted that CAPRI sustained a flat tyre near the 700 metres which placed it at a disadvantage for the remainder of the race. As CAPRI gave ground over the concluding stages, HIGHVIEW OBAN was checked and galloped.


    This, imo, is absolutely ridiculous. When a driver from inside the back row intentionally doesn't score up properly and gets off the pegs they get a $200 fine. When a driver from the front line doesn't is in the wrong starting position (how would somebody start from 3 instead of 2 is beyond me) they get a $200 fine. But when somebody is trying to do the right thing and marginally infringes they get DQed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mary View Post
    Boort...Did anyone have a problem with C.Alford on Daylight Dan? I see he has a QDT & really can not understand why. He led & ran them along & ran a great 3rd to the top Restrepo.
    [VVV] No, not a problem in the world with it Mary.
    Given their respective Draws, off the Front versus 20m, I thought the only shot Puppet had to knock over Restrepo & win it was to jump cleanly and set about putting as much track as possible & as quickly as possible, between himself and Gavin Lang.
    Puppet's horse had won 5 of his last 6 & his last 4 in a row so it was not as though he was on a pie eater & it's not like he folded up his tent & finished motherless. He finished 3rd, beaten 7m & a very good effort too. It was well & truly a legitamet tactic IMO. That was just a 'for show' query by the Stewards IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    This, imo, is absolutely ridiculous. When a driver from inside the back row intentionally doesn't score up properly and gets off the pegs they get a $200 fine. When a driver from the front line doesn't is in the wrong starting position (how would somebody start from 3 instead of 2 is beyond me) they get a $200 fine. But when somebody is trying to do the right thing and marginally infringes they get DQed for it.
    [VVV] I feel your pain Breno. It's right up there, no question. The same goes for fining Drivers for a change of tactics aboard a fav. even when said change (snagging off the gate instead of going forward) sees to it that the fav. still wins the race. That particularly stirling effort from the since departed the Stewarding ranks Mr. Cable will go down in History as one of, if not THE most ridiculous rulings to have ever been made on a racecourse. Straight to The Pool Room. God forbid that some common sense ever creeps in.

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