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    Senior Member 3YO Gtrain has a spectacular aura about Gtrain's Avatar
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    Viv Elsu would have licked Changeover. Unfortunately has not equalled similar success to cuf and cc for him at stud. Despite a very fair opportunity.

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    Easy to forget Grant how good he was as i did. But as you say he has not done the job in the barn despite getting every opportunity. All the others mentioned are desendants of the Direct Scooter line which has excelled in Nz for over 15 years.

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    how does LIFE SIGN sit with you all?...still pretty good value at $2k I reakon

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    Quote Originally Posted by HISGEN65 View Post
    how does LIFE SIGN sit with you all?...still pretty good value at $2k I reakon
    Depends if your mare is by Troublemaker or not!

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    no she's not...she's just a troublemaker

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    Hi James, had a chuckle at your last comment. What's her breeding please???

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    G'day Richard..I have 2 mares,ones a big Trump Casino mare "Gentle Spirit" who has thrown 2 real nice foals so far & has a year off...the other is a little sh##..haha...a Presidential Ball mare "The Gold Rush"..im only breeding from "Gentle Spirit" next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrain View Post
    Viv Elsu would have licked Changeover. Unfortunately has not equalled similar success to cuf and cc for him at stud. Despite a very fair opportunity.

    [VVV] Elsu may well have beaten Changeover on the track but Changeover's hands down to beat Elsu in the breeding barn and then some.
    Elsu was never going to make it as a sire. I said as much to Jackie Gibson the 1st year the horse went to stud. IMO he always had two massive negatives, he was not a particularly good type & so was apt to sire them in his own image & more importantly than anything, he had what I always thought was a terrible gait. To my eye he went awful in front.
    It was a way of going he obviously had the motor to drive and so to live with but when his progeny got various versions of it...only sans the size of motor required to drive it...it was all over bar the shouting.
    On the other hand Changeover is physically a much better type & had an infinitely better way of going. Chalk and Cheese. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Changeover make the grade. Would have been stunned if Elsu ever did.

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    Depending on her size, Metropolitan might be worth some consideration. Gentle Spirit has a heap of Adios blood and this is great to work with. If she's a big girl, I would be looking at all of your options.

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    thanks Richard..Ive only ever bred 2 but find breeding & the theorys of breeding very intreging..Its interesting to peruse through the HRA on-line stats to see what crosses & combinations actually have put results on the board.

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