Reply With QuoteAccording to Mick Guerin "Terror To Love returning to NZ after Miracle Mile shocker, misses Victoria Cup. Connections still shaking head over how poorly he went"Originally Posted by 2minuteman
Sorry for butting in Smoken, but 5 years ago there was a horse running around by the name of BLACKS A FAKE who had some mighty clashes with old Trigger .
According to Mick Guerin "Terror To Love returning to NZ after Miracle Mile shocker, misses Victoria Cup. Connections still shaking head over how poorly he went"
How can I forget Richard. Those were great battle royales! Two mighty horses for sure!
As for ITMQ, he is a rocket, and a Champ, but we all have a ultimate Champ for our own reasons. That is sad regarding TTL. He just hates Menangle!
[QUOTE=2minuteman;29209]And as my old Grandad used to say"if the dog don't stop for a s**t he catches the rabbitThanks for the sanity check Ron, reminded me of what my grandfather used to say " if my aunty had balls she would be my uncle" admire the combatants in this debate for their tenacity and durability but guys.....it is an arguement that you can all win in one moment and lose in a heartbeat, because as Ron said, it's ALL CONJECTURE, anyone who knows anything about horses understands as Vinnie Knight so famously put it " their only HUMAN" what Vinnie meant was of course they are creatures of the world, they can have some days that are better or worse than others.......no explanation required....thats a fact of life.are all using times,sits,great drives,age differences,last weeks run,this weeks run,drivers brain snaps,etc.etc.
It is all conjecture.The facts are SU wins Cordina in 49 and change and Beautide wins Miracle Mile in 50 and change.All the rest is??? see above about dog.
Cheers,
Dan
Its a shame my old mate Marty "German" Johnson is banned. His famous quote of 3 pegs never wins big races. Oh so wrong again!!! This is on top of his comments with regards For a Reason. I will let others judge your level of intelligence.
Ash, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. No matter what type of racing a turn of speed at the end of races wins races. Forget the overall times this means absolutely nothing. Cordina sprint last quarter 26.6, Miracle Mile clocked 26.2. From leader to winner. Beautide runs sub 26. Too fast to good! Smoken Up a champion but just not as quick as he used to be.
http://www.harnesslink.com/News/Terr...-Mile-disaster
That's a real shame, I was looking forward to seeing him going around in longer distance Cup races.
For anyone who is interested I have compiled the comparison between Cordina Sprint winners and their placing in the MM.
These times are the horses personal times.
2009 Karloo Mick Cordina 1.55.7 MM 3rd 1.50.9
2010 Washakie 1.50.5 Last 1.51.5
2011 Mr Feelgood 1.51.1 4th 1.52.1
2013 (April) Pure Power (2nd) 1.51.8 3rd 1.50.7 (Gaius Caesar scratched)
2013 Smoken Up 1.49.9 5th 1.51.1
The 2 improvers where Karloo Mick off a slow Cordina and Pure Power who had not started since 3rd March before 20th April Cordina.
The rest seem to have lost a second week on week.
They are interesting stats there mate!
40% improve time.
Of those that didn't.
2010 Washakie difference due to early speed battle in Cordina which he wasn't a part of.
2011 Smoken Up 1.51.8? 6 months earlier 1.48.5. Something doesn't quite stack up.
2013 We already been through this.
I don't think there's a strong enough link to pull anything from those stats.
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