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    I know we cant have it both ways but;

    The threshold exceedance was not included in that report and that the threshold has been reduced to 100mpl-Hughes gets 4 years. Must have been massively over the threshold.

    Ms Chisholm receives 12 months and the threshold at her time of being charged with cheating was double what it is now at 200 mpl

    Broken Hill yeah rite. Are they getting the low hanging fruit in a place where the fastest horse would not beat me and they have 10 meetings a year?

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    Trainers are obligated to check what goes into a horses mouth...dont lets kid ourselves about what goes on. Instead of whinging about having to be scientists, they should lift their level of professionalism. If feed supplied was that bad across the board , wouldnt every trainer in the land be busted for high cobalt levels?
    Trainers/industry people also need to come up with solutions to this issue and let the controlling body know about their ideas. The controlling bodies are not blameless either. Their procedures and rules should be watertight re accreditation for testing etc, there are no excuses for that, it is their job. I know trainers who have horses who are continually swabbed and tested and come up clean every time. These hangers on and long time lurkers on facebook and twitter seem intent on stirring the pot as well instead of coming up with something constructive.

    What can be done about the suppliers of the feed? They should also be held accountable if information is misleading.

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    I'm sick of people defending the use of cobalt on social media. I don't believe one innocent trainer has been caught . I believe that some trainers think if the threshold is 100 then they want their horses racing with 90 in their system. So then all it takes is some feed or a supplement with a little extra in it and they're over the limit and they scream that they are innocent ! The normal level for a horse in training on a cobalt free diet is <10. They allow an extra 90 just to be sure . So if your not treating your horse with cobalt you are safe. I can't believe with all the information and warnings out there that any trainer would use a feed mix that has added cobalt.
    Then there are the idiots that use 10 different products that contain cobalt but think it's ok to use that product at the recommended dose ! Yes it is but just one product not multiple ones. When all the facts come out they are usually injecting large amounts of it into their horse, it's never an accident. The same people are claiming that cobalt is not performance enhancing ! So why are they using it ?
    Don't die wondering !

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutwagon View Post
    I'm sick of people defending the use of cobalt on social media. I don't believe one innocent trainer has been caught . I believe that some trainers think if the threshold is 100 then they want their horses racing with 90 in their system. So then all it takes is some feed or a supplement with a little extra in it and they're over the limit and they scream that they are innocent ! The normal level for a horse in training on a cobalt free diet is <10. They allow an extra 90 just to be sure . So if your not treating your horse with cobalt you are safe. I can't believe with all the information and warnings out there that any trainer would use a feed mix that has added cobalt.
    Then there are the idiots that use 10 different products that contain cobalt but think it's ok to use that product at the recommended dose ! Yes it is but just one product not multiple ones. When all the facts come out they are usually injecting large amounts of it into their horse, it's never an accident. The same people are claiming that cobalt is not performance enhancing ! So why are they using it ?
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