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    That's a long list of new & outstanding charges, it will take a while to go through this.........at least we have been brought up to date!.......thank-you HRNSW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Form Student View Post
    That's a long list of new & outstanding charges, it will take a while to go through this.........at least we have been brought up to date!.......thank-you HRNSW!
    HRNSW are so far ahead of VIC - in correspondence with Vic I suggested they should consider monitoring Harnesslink to keep abreast of people's concerns but only got the response that they probably read the forum when time permits
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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=24690
    Hi Kevin, In this article it has a bit at the end about cobalt on your premises.
    Thanks Trish. The way I read it - you cannot be found to have cobalt at your training premises
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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    Thanks Greg, didn't realise that from foals. Would it be against the rules to have a cobalt level over 200 in out of race testing, I don't know if it is, trainers used to be able to use steroids as long as it didn't show up on race day.
    I Noticed we didn't get an answer out of Adam regarding the swabbing upon arrival to the retention barn, maybe he can fill us in when he gets a chance.
    If the horse is in work then yes i would think Trish but Hormones are banned across the board now as far as i know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Thanks Trish. The way I read it - you cannot be found to have cobalt at your training premises
    Yes you can but not excessive quantities.
    Have whoever you want on but don't ever have yourself on

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    Thanks Greg
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    Another NSW trainer stood down today - Dick Inskip (was tempted to say he has been dumped )

    http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=24716
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    What happens if the points from this win makes a difference to the point score in the series.

    Wouldn't you think the positive swabs would slow up, they just keep coming. The prospect of a lengthy stint on the side line doesn't seem to frighten some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Race For Fun View Post
    What happens if the points from this win makes a difference to the point score in the series.

    Wouldn't you think the positive swabs would slow up, they just keep coming. The prospect of a lengthy stint on the side line doesn't seem to frighten some.
    G'day Toni,
    I made a forecast some months ago on how widespread the cobalt thing is and it seems despite the heads up provided by the HRNSW integrity unit many people are still living in dreamland thinking they can continue to treat their horses the way they always have!!

    Just because a treatment regime didn't swab last year doesn't mean the industry "police" haven't worked it out yet...many of the people going for cobalt have been "treating" their horses during the week for the same way for a loonngg time! and for some reason are having trouble coming to grips with the fact as of a few months ago they cannot continue.Hence the continual flow of cobalt positives......it's quite similar to the bi-carb thing about twenty years ago, many people were feeding/drenching big doses of bi-carb thinking there was nothing wrong with it, and to a certain extent they were right, until a relable test and thresholds were implemented.....and here we are twenty years later and some people are STILL pushing the bouindaries on THAT ONE!

    The mentality seems to be for some people that keep pushing until you get busted...then try something else and keep pushing until you get busted FOR THAT!

    I think it is no co-incidence that we have so many repeat offenders, it's a personality thing in my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Race For Fun View Post
    What happens if the points from this win makes a difference to the point score in the series.

    Wouldn't you think the positive swabs would slow up, they just keep coming. The prospect of a lengthy stint on the side line doesn't seem to frighten some.
    It is definatly a "mind set" thing with an ego twist in my opinion - I am guessing alot of trainers are so overwhelmingly convinced in their minds that their horses "have" to have something without question & are so gung ho about it that all rational thoughts go out the window - also the fear of your team drastically under performing running "on the engine only" after previously having help is where the ego factor kicks in - not to mention the financial side of things,i guess some think its worth the risk to keep the money coming in to continue their life style - also the mentality that everyone who has success is using something so I will too...it goes round n round & pretty much a vicious circle
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