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    Senior Member 4YO HaroldParker will become famous soon enough
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    Lance was 2 from 2 re QDT on Friday night.

    Perhaps a query re Alford's drive on the Fav was warranted ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldParker View Post
    Lance was 2 from 2 re QDT on Friday night.

    Perhaps a query re Alford's drive on the Fav was warranted ?
    What would you suggest he should have done Harold? Pop around to the death and have Gavin keep him 3 wide for the rest of the trip?
    Damned if he does damned if he doesnt, thats racing. As i mentioned earlier, with Gav controlling things up front and keeping Lance bottled up nicely, its a bit hard to come form a few lengths back while 3 wide around last bend when front horses are running a 26odd last 400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldParker View Post
    Lance was 2 from 2 re QDT on Friday night.

    Perhaps a query re Alford's drive on the Fav was warranted ?
    Thats how you drive Chilli Palmer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p plater View Post
    Brent, maybe another look at the start might be in order. M. Bellman (Our Mels Dream) started well then grabbed hold, had Lance tried to get on his back at the start Smoken Up would have crashed into him. As it happens M Bellman made sure Lance stayed on the fence. Watch it again.
    Stewards report interesting.

    RACE 4 – SOKYOLA SPRINT (1720 MS)
    Driver Michael Bellman reported that the deafener cord on Our Mels Dream NZ broke and he couldn’t release that gear at any stage.
    Driver Lance Justice was questioned regarding the tactics the adopted on Smoken Up NZ, particularly his decision to remain on the peg line in the early stages of the race. Mr Justice explained that his initial efforts were to shift wider on the track, however Our Mels Dream did not leave the gate as quickly as expected and he elected to improve along the inside and shift into the running line ahead of Our Mels Dream. Our Mels Dream was able to gain momentum racing to the first turn and Smoken Up NZ was then obliged to race behind the leader throughout. Smoken Up NZ was held up momentarily rounding the home turn before utilising the sprint lane to finish in second position. The explanation of Mr Justice was verified on the replays and his comments were noted.

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    Lance has had a busy week in the stewards room. Day before race 3 at maryborough. Inquiry ongoing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Thats how you drive Chilli Palmer though.
    His last win @ Melton he reeled off a half in 26.6 and 26.8 off a 58.6 Half. Given they were crawling on Friday he should of been off way sooner.

    If a $1.30 pop @ Randwick on Saturday afternoon was ridden in a similar manner, serious questions would be asked, yet not a peep here.

    I understand it's Chris Alford but initiative needed to shown on this occasion, driving a $1.30 public elect, he should of had to answer for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldParker View Post
    His last win @ Melton he reeled off a half in 26.6 and 26.8 off a 58.6 Half. Given they were crawling on Friday he should of been off way sooner.

    If a $1.30 pop @ Randwick on Saturday afternoon was ridden in a similar manner, serious questions would be asked, yet not a peep here.

    I understand it's Chris Alford but initiative needed to shown on this occasion, driving a $1.30 public elect, he should of had to answer for it.
    I have often commented on how there is rarely a peep when long odds on favourites are beaten in our game, Bob.
    It happens quite often and I am sure it happens a lot more often than at the gallops.
    Why is this so? (anyone old enough to remember Prof Julius Sumner Miller? lol)
    We have far more odds on pops for a start. Is this because people can map a harness race easier and certain positions are seen to be far more favourable than others?
    Do the weights make for more even fields in the gallops? (They do tend to have bigger fields overall)
    You would think the bookies could do pretty well out of the trots with all the beaten odds on pops (then 8/10 favs won at Cranbourne today)
    This should probably be a thread of its own Bob
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