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Thread: How do we make Harness Racing strong via today's sports betting market

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    I have seen umpteen ads on TV for pre-paid tickets to next month's Ararat Cup (gallops)
    Get in people's heads early to plan and commit to an event - interesting
    Good professional ads too - not always the case on country TV lol
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    The gallops continue to be progressive. As of November 3, TVN will be part of Foxtel's basic package

    Edit: This corresponds with Foxtel halving the price of their basic package so TVN and racing may really gain extra exposure if the number of Foxtel subscribers increases due to the price change
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    I tuned into the Manikato stakes at MV last night - how good is their video coverage of the race - that is what you have to aspire to Harness Racing authorities as that is what we compete with
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    Thanks trish. That article on the Wagering Working Party contains the following link to their report

    http://www.harness.org.au/hra/pdfs/W...NAL-301014.pdf

    We should all read it (I will try to get onto it later today)
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    Interesting & good read. Would have taken mega time to compile all that info , so well done to everyone concerned for putting it all together.

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    Let us hope something positive is done with the data collated - though not at the expense of the country areas who hold the sport together. Too many reports have been commissioned with no real action and too much has been pillaged from our sport at the grass roots level over the years IMO.

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    7 out of 9 Favs at Ballarat tonight were odds on. Compared to the races (today) it probably seems like no value - we just have to get the message out that half of the odds on Favs lose so there is real value to be found
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    Great point Kev, I've followed the Trots for many years and there's far more value with them compared to the TB's and the Yappers, Maybe the punters see an odds on Fav and avoid having a punt on the Trots, This can be very deceiving and you would have to think that their not reading the form or barrier and draws correctly. A lot of Punters take the short odds and would be driven away due to the short priced Fav's getting rolled fairly consistently but imho, You really must look for the value runners and there's always value around the exotic's as well. Another thing I would like to point out is some of our high payed tipsters have NFI, A certain bloke gets on Tele spruiking the Shorties fairly regularly and he's like the Kiss of Death, Have wondered for a while now if this particular bloke also punts his tips because he would go home with the arse out of his pants most of the time. A warning to Punters, Don't listen to the High Profile Tipsters, Do your own form and reap the benefits.
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    Following on from Richard's

    Maybe the punters see an odds on Fav and avoid having a punt on the Trots, This can be very deceiving and you would have to think that their not reading the form or barrier and draws correctly. A lot of Punters take the short odds and would be driven away due to the short priced Fav's getting rolled fairly consistently


    and Kev's


    we just have to get the message out that half of the odds on Favs lose so there is real value to be found

    A question for the punters in the forum. False odds on favourites, what are your thoughts on prices/assessments when markets first open? Not so much group one races but midweek and weekly metro meetings. Also do you feel the fluctuations, or lack of, are truly due to the weight of money invested or still influenced by the betting company's assessors?
    Thinking about one of the recommendations from the Wagering Working Panel, employing a form analyst to assist stewards with race (integrity) matters, do harness racing punters, newbies/casual, need the opinion of an independent price assessor? Are the punters being offered that already? If so, how prominent is that info?

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