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    Senior Member 2YO Pena will become famous soon enough
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    State of NSW Harness Racing

    Reading that Nicole Molander is relocating partially because of the grading system in NSW surely Max Dumesny and his team at HRNSW must realise that the new system is a dead duck. The quality of the fields at present are laughable and surely the powers that be must realise something needs to change. Perhaps NSW could start with scrapping the import tax and encourage people to bring horse to NSW. The best Metropolitan prizemoney means nothing if you do not support the grass root participants. Max, the time is pressing time to make a stand and get rid of Nati's legacy.

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    This is the story that Jack is referring to

    http://www.harnesslink.com/Internati...ng-to-Victoria
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    The system is easy fixed
    1) return to restricted meetings and country/metro class meetings
    2) pick restricted fields from lowest points up to a maximum of 20 points, if your above 20 points your horse is in decent form and shouldnt be racing for 3000 dollars
    3)use only one concession either concession driver or mares but cant use both
    4)add drop back clauses in races like-C2C3 also eligble C4 won less than 1000 last 4 every race should have a drop back clause in it to give out of form horses more options

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    Quote Originally Posted by djgood View Post
    The system is easy fixed
    1) return to restricted meetings and country/metro class meetings
    2) pick restricted fields from lowest points up to a maximum of 20 points, if your above 20 points your horse is in decent form and shouldnt be racing for 3000 dollars
    3)use only one concession either concession driver or mares but cant use both
    4)add drop back clauses in races like-C2C3 also eligble C4 won less than 1000 last 4 every race should have a drop back clause in it to give out of form horses more options
    I'd have to agree fully with every point, there's a lot of people who would like to see it go back the way it was. I'd also add trainers and owners should be able to place there horse/horses in what race they want to put them in..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mango View Post
    I'd have to agree fully with every point, there's a lot of people who would like to see it go back the way it was. I'd also add trainers and owners should be able to place there horse/horses in what race they want to put them in..
    I agree Dallas, it just seems absurd for it should be a given
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    Quote Originally Posted by djgood View Post
    The system is easy fixed
    1) return to restricted meetings and country/metro class meetings
    2) pick restricted fields from lowest points up to a maximum of 20 points, if your above 20 points your horse is in decent form and shouldnt be racing for 3000 dollars
    3)use only one concession either concession driver or mares but cant use both
    4)add drop back clauses in races like-C2C3 also eligble C4 won less than 1000 last 4 every race should have a drop back clause in it to give out of form horses more options
    I think you're well and truly on the right track here David. Do Victoria have something along the line of selecting the fields from the bottom up in restricted races?

    I don't think mares should get a class and driver let up especially if the race is then preferential draw sex (that's 3 concessions). Only point that I differ on is point 4. If they picked the restricted races from the bottom up that's the concession for out of form horses, otherwise the system then gives the out of form horse 2 let ups like mares have now.

    No one could say that this current system has improved racing in NSW because everyone knows how often nominations are extended for all meetings (it's not the change of season 2 and 3 year olds). We all have the text messages from HRNSW to inform us. How long do you think until someone, anyone at HRNSW admits this just isn't working?
    Last edited by Race For Fun; 11-20-2014 at 07:24 PM. Reason: typo

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    I personally think that Menangle should just bite the bullet and go back to Friday nights.
    I do not think Saturday nights work and also has ruined the regular Saturday nights at Newcastle.
    The recent changes have just not worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pena View Post
    I personally think that Menangle should just bite the bullet and go back to Friday nights.
    I do not think Saturday nights work and also has ruined the regular Saturday nights at Newcastle.
    The recent changes have just not worked.
    I agree this friday i have 2 trotters in at menangle and a pacer in at newcastle its going to be a big day!!!

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    Makes you wonder if they need to spend all that money building the training centre at Menangle. Who is going to fill them on a long term basis?

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    Not sure what is going on but when you read all the cobalt chloride positives in Nsw and then none or few in Victoria maybe the stewards in Nsw are over zealous or the Vics just not testing for it.
    What is the answer but surely all the trainers that are inclined to use outside influences cant all be based in Nsw or are they?

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