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[arlington]

On another thread their is discussion regarding champs of the past. A horse considered one the finest ever produced should have massive ? Against whether he competed on the level given the allegations of suspected use of EPO way ahead of its time in this country.
The cobalt inquiries I suspect have to stand still until the NSW test case is resolved, HRV cannot afford to go off half cocked here or it will signal the end of the spirt as a profession, Andrew Rule has already forecast the end of the sport, it will need significant government assistance to get the integrity controls in place to do so.

Are you referring to a horse in the hype and delusion thread Stu?

[Mister JayKO]

Are you referring to a horse in the hype and delusion thread Stu?

Yes

[Diablo]

What I am bewildered with at the moment is the fact the 'Investigators' seem to have had prior knowledge to what was being scripted in certain races but punters were still allowed to place bets which were always going to turn into vapour. I guess they would call this 'collateral damage' but, surely, when the races in question become common knowledge there should be some kind of recourse for punters to recover their losses.

[squaregaiter]

Has turnover fallen through the floor in NSW harness racing?
When will harness racing close down in NSW?
Is this situation in Victoria worst, on a par, not as bad as bribery of the officials who police the sport a la NSW harness racing not a lifetime ago?
IMO...
No
Not in my lifetime
on a par

the first out of Mildura is interesting when the sky was projected to possible fall
Win pool down marginally
Place pool UP
Tri UP 30%
Quin UP over 40%
Ex "same"
First 4 UP-DOUBLE
Run Dub down marginally
OVER ALL the pools were UP over 20% !


this is based on the last meeting thereon the 21st Jan again "just another meeting like tonight"

[Maorisidol]

the first out of Mildura is interesting when the sky was projected to possible fall
Win pool down marginally
Place pool UP
Tri UP 30%
Quin UP over 40%
Ex "same"
First 4 UP-DOUBLE
Run Dub down marginally
OVER ALL the pools were UP over 20% !


this is based on the last meeting thereon the 21st Jan again "just another meeting like tonight"

Maybe punters are confident they will get a fair go tonite!!!

[barney]

I for the first time for a long time actualy looked at Mildura to have a bet as no Cramp factor to take into account

[squaregaiter]

the first out of Mildura is interesting when the sky was projected to possible fall
Win pool down marginally
Place pool UP
Tri UP 30%
Quin UP over 40%
Ex "same"
First 4 UP-DOUBLE
Run Dub down marginally
OVER ALL the pools were UP over 20% !
this is based on the last meeting thereon the 21st Jan again "just another meeting like tonight"

Quaddie Pool UP around 10% as well

[aussiebreno]

What I am bewildered with at the moment is the fact the 'Investigators' seem to have had prior knowledge to what was being scripted in certain races but punters were still allowed to place bets which were always going to turn into vapour. I guess they would call this 'collateral damage' but, surely, when the races in question become common knowledge there should be some kind of recourse for punters to recover their losses.

Once proven guilty possibly civil cases against Cramp. Would need to have had a large bet to cover legals, doubt anybody would have.

[Diablo]

Once proven guilty possibly civil cases against Cramp. Would need to have had a large bet to cover legals, doubt anybody would have.

Class action.

[aussiebreno]

Class action.

True.