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Thread: Is there a place for Standing Start races if we are looking to maximize market share

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    It definetly comes down to training , I stand them up every day , before jogging they stand and go and all my fast work stand and go , and 99% of the time mine go away from the stand, but also I train trotters majority of the time currently 3 trotters 1 pacer so stand start training is essential

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    Not Again ! Another Cup from a "Standing Start".

    Well, what do you say.
    First try at the Shepparton Gold Cup standing start and the front barrier doesn't release and is broken , with Josh Duggan having to right the sulky and remount on Pachacuti.

    Then after all had reformed, a hand held front tape ( in a Group 2 race?), and if you watch it,
    http://www.harness.org.au/meeting-re...ic#SPC16011601

    a walk-up or in the case of some on the 10 m mark, a running start.
    Where was the 10 m strand, and where was the strand behind the 10 m horses?
    There are meant to be 3 strands I thought...but only one ( and hand held ?) .

    Time to look professional, give each horse an equal chance, or give the standing starts away.
    Last edited by Adaptor; 01-17-2016 at 11:42 PM.

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    All tapes must now be hand held in Victoria as of the two stands at Warragul tomorrow.

    Starter will wave a green flag to dispatch the field.

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    Cool Standing Starts

    I like them, it gives great diversity. However clubs seem to think Cup/standing start. However, horses, trainers and drivers do not get frequent experience standing up.
    Put a stand on at every meeting, very the class to acclimatise the horse/driver to racing from the stand. You cannot just blonk a mobile horse in a stand and say there you go now don't make a mess of it.

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    The end of stand start racing in Victoria for pacers!


    http://www.harness.org.au/news-artic...?news_id=28632

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    Standing starts in Vic for pacers abolished.

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    The bureaucrats site fall in wagering, Yet trotters with their large percentage of standing starts are increasing turnover and are being Internationally recognised as a commercial wagering product. Go figure.
    It will be put forward as away of attracting the new age punter, whilst forgetting the traditionalist as they are seen as rusted on. So the bureaucratic will happily alienate a segment of the punting public all in the hope of attracting the "new age punter". Let me remind the bureaucrats that from age 30-50 yrs I had very little excess income private school fees, mortgage, wife, farm etc, now the Grey nomads as the media calls them are well heeled up superannuation, resizing of the family home, be very careful of re-branding a product that has endured the test of time.


    Next broadcasters via the same bureaucrats will be wanting more 1000m- 1600m racing, more races= more turnover. It is about the time taken for stands to proceed and the distance of cup races taking more time. Its a cost equation for broadcasting time. If you live long enough it all goes around.
    Rationalise Rationalise Rationalise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangles View Post
    The bureaucrats site fall in wagering, Yet trotters with their large percentage of standing starts are increasing turnover and are being Internationally recognised as a commercial wagering product. Go figure.
    It will be put forward as away of attracting the new age punter, whilst forgetting the traditionalist as they are seen as rusted on. So the bureaucratic will happily alienate a segment of the punting public all in the hope of attracting the "new age punter". Let me remind the bureaucrats that from age 30-50 yrs I had very little excess income private school fees, mortgage, wife, farm etc, now the Grey nomads as the media calls them are well heeled up superannuation, resizing of the family home, be very careful of re-branding a product that has endured the test of time.


    Next broadcasters via the same bureaucrats will be wanting more 1000m- 1600m racing, more races= more turnover. It is about the time taken for stands to proceed and the distance of cup races taking more time. Its a cost equation for broadcasting time. If you live long enough it all goes around.
    Rationalise Rationalise Rationalise.
    Not necessarily disputing this claim but is there evidence of this and how does this compare to recent trends in Pacers MS. Especially taking into regard trot SS V trot MS and also taking into regard that I believe Europe has started betting on our trot races in recent times.

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    Don't like this 'New Age' & 'Evolving' terminology... Sounds very Darwininan and Mystical at the same time.. Oh the irony
    Maybe they should have had only experienced trainers who specialise in Standing starts, that way people would be looking forward to these traditional races so much more, and people would have bet more comfortably knowing that all horses have had the best opportunities..
    Last edited by Smoken; 01-18-2016 at 05:25 PM.

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    Adam Hamilton nailed it.

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