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    Warning signs out for some stallions

    Harness racing breeders are never slow to pick up the trends about new sires and these days are pretty quick to abandon any stallion who they think is not delivering on the track....

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    Warning signs out for some stallions

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    Interesting reading......follows the US and Canadian trend of dropping very quickly stallions whose numbers don't stack up.

    Interesting that we don't seem to have any Dragon Again sons, as his record in the US is top shelf....including highest ever earning Harness Racing horse Foiled Again 1:48, $6.8 million US.
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    This is one stallion who you confidently say has left stock that are a carbon copy of their sire. They can get up and go at two but you know they will get better at three, four and beyond. They have inherited his toughness and durability with so many of his stock performing to a high level year after year on the track. He has shown he can leave both quality colts and fillies who are competitive at the elite level of our industry as well as the raceway runners who have to perform week in week out. His overall statistics are right up there with the best and we have struggled to find a major fault with his stud career to this point.
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    Dragon Again has been a great sire right from his first crop and with the record he has established as a sire, his service fee of $5,000 is outstanding value. He can leave top colts and fillies but what should be just as appealing to breeders is the general toughness and durability that his stock are noted for.
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    The one that is mentioned to us every now and again is that some can be difficult to handle. As one Hall Of Fame trainer said to us, they are a real "horsemans horse" that can be a handful for the less experienced but he always found that they came around if you were patient.
    Last edited by Adaptor; 03-12-2015 at 01:59 PM.

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    In case you are confused
    Post 1..I have included the original article with the appropriate heading and link to this thread.
    The article is taken from HARNESSLINK NZ news thread and relates to the drop off in mare numbers served by stallions standing in NZ this past Breeding season (2014 / 15).
    Post 2..I have been unable to satisfactorily open the link. Hence the inclusion of Post 1.
    Post 3...I can't see where this fits into the discussion. I can find no reference to Dragon again in the original article.


    If I have this wrong I apologise. If not the original posters may like to clarify, move or delete their contributions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adaptor View Post
    Interesting reading......follows the US and Canadian trend of dropping very quickly stallions whose numbers don't stack up.

    Interesting that we don't seem to have any Dragon Again sons, as his record in the US is top shelf....including highest ever earning Harness Racing horse Foiled Again 1:48, $6.8 million US.
    COMMENT ( From Harness Link)

    This is one stallion who you confidently say has left stock that are a carbon copy of their sire. They can get up and go at two but you know they will get better at three, four and beyond. They have inherited his toughness and durability with so many of his stock performing to a high level year after year on the track. He has shown he can leave both quality colts and fillies who are competitive at the elite level of our industry as well as the raceway runners who have to perform week in week out. His overall statistics are right up there with the best and we have struggled to find a major fault with his stud career to this point.
    POSITIVES
    Dragon Again has been a great sire right from his first crop and with the record he has established as a sire, his service fee of $5,000 is outstanding value. He can leave top colts and fillies but what should be just as appealing to breeders is the general toughness and durability that his stock are noted for.
    NEGATIVES
    The one that is mentioned to us every now and again is that some can be difficult to handle. As one Hall Of Fame trainer said to us, they are a real "horsemans horse" that can be a handful for the less experienced but he always found that they came around if you were patient.
    Sorry to correct you Noel, Sutter Hanover is by Dragon Again.
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    Thanks for that.
    Sutter Hanover 1.50.2 Dragon Again from Sami Cam X No Nukes, with 149 foals since 2010 and now resident in Tasmania will find it really difficult to make an impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adaptor View Post
    Interesting reading......follows the US and Canadian trend of dropping very quickly stallions whose numbers don't stack up.

    Interesting that we don't seem to have any Dragon Again sons, as his record in the US is top shelf....including highest ever earning Harness Racing horse Foiled Again 1:48, $6.8 million US.
    COMMENT ( From Harness Link)

    This is one stallion who you confidently say has left stock that are a carbon copy of their sire. They can get up and go at two but you know they will get better at three, four and beyond. They have inherited his toughness and durability with so many of his stock performing to a high level year after year on the track. He has shown he can leave both quality colts and fillies who are competitive at the elite level of our industry as well as the raceway runners who have to perform week in week out. His overall statistics are right up there with the best and we have struggled to find a major fault with his stud career to this point.
    POSITIVES
    Dragon Again has been a great sire right from his first crop and with the record he has established as a sire, his service fee of $5,000 is outstanding value. He can leave top colts and fillies but what should be just as appealing to breeders is the general toughness and durability that his stock are noted for.
    NEGATIVES
    The one that is mentioned to us every now and again is that some can be difficult to handle. As one Hall Of Fame trainer said to us, they are a real "horsemans horse" that can be a handful for the less experienced but he always found that they came around if you were patient.
    Would love to have access to Dragon Again Noel, His stock in Nth America have just gone past $100 million and this is a massive achievement for any stallion, At $5000, He's great value, Hopefully the Americans have a look at this thread and give breeders in these parts access to his semen.

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