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    Winning a $50K and $250K race different story to earning $500K.

    Tell me how you would change it?

    And let me know how that works out for horses like Royal Verdict and Marquess De Posh.

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    Brenno,
    all that needs to be done is set a prizemoney ceiling on each class of race e.g. C0 winners of in excess of $80k ineligible, C1 winners of $100k ineligible, C2 winners of $150k ineliglible.

    The horse will race as a C0 in a C3, still only take a country front but have to face much stiffer company in the C3 front and hopefully not go around at $1.04 stifling the betting as happens currently.

    Not certain the prizemeney levels I have used as examples are entirely correct, but the structure would be an easy sell to participants and punters alike, the only one having a gripe might be the connections of the subject horse, but hey they already have had a good time and have cash in their pockets, they are now required to race horses that have more similar in ability as theirs.

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    Am I right in assuming that this race does not count as a Career Class penalty race?

    http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...de=ARC04041504

    Trying to figure how Our Petite Soeur was in the C1 at Cranbourne today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Am I right in assuming that this race does not count as a Career Class penalty race?

    http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/r...de=ARC04041504

    Trying to figure how Our Petite Soeur was in the C1 at Cranbourne today
    The mare is C2 Kev and gets a one class drop for being a mare, hence eligible for C1, IMO another fault with the system which is choked with"C1" horses, between drop back clauses, mares concessions and IMO an overly generous junior drivers claim we have the current problem of the "C1" horse, which often is in fact a currently C3 mare, who last week was a C4 mare.......going around on "level" terms with say a horse that has had 25/35 starts and won it's only ever race, a C0.

    If thats creating even fields and good betting opportunities then I am a genius who had the sense to give this game away thirty years ago!

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    Thanks Dan, must remember that - mares concession
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    Race 2 at Melton tonight - why is it called an M1? With a stake of only $8505 (only $230 more than the R11 C1) it wont attract a metro penalty so why is it called an M1

    http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=MX050615#2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Race 2 at Melton tonight - why is it called an M1? With a stake of only $8505 (only $230 more than the R11 C1) it wont attract a metro penalty so why is it called an M1

    http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=MX050615#2
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    Sometimes they have enough left over from the M1 noms to make up another race (if another race is needed). Still called an M1 but race for less stakes and pretty sure you only get a C penalty (stay an M1 if win). If look at race 7 (the real M1) looks like those horses would have more field selection points than those in race 2 so guessing that's what's happened here.

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