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    Junior Member Weanling Galli will become famous soon enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie View Post
    we must consider horse welfare, it is unfair to expect them to stand at the races hours before their race.
    They have to do that quite often anyway - as soon as you take 2 or more horses to the races. I wish someone thought about horse welfare (let alone the connections'!) when we took two to Kilmore in winter. One in the race 1, the other in the last 3.5 hours later!!!! We sat at the stalls (can't leave the horses unattended!) and ran with them in the parade ring every now and again. +4, rain and wind. Never again...

    Horses stand most of the day anyway (and what's keeping the stable staff from walking them around?). If we are serious about improving the integrity, then let's get serious! Getting them to the track early is cheaper than providing security to all the stables.

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    You can’t predict what race your horse will be in when you enter and with multiple runners your experience is not a one off Kati. Usually all runners from one stable travel to the races in one float/ truck.If the horse in the first is required 4 hours before their race ( not 1 hour as required now ) it extends the wait time for the horse in the last by 3 hours. Add travel time and it can be another 2 hours. Horses might stand all day Kati but not in the one spot. Integrity should not be judged on the cheapest option but the most effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnie View Post
    Integrity should not be judged on the cheapest option but the most effective.
    Are you offering to pay for it then? Or should we take that money off the total stakes of VicBred Series? Racing for ribbons next? I'm sorry, but something's got to give...

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    Obviously we must be mindful of horse welfare, and for the welfare of the people charged with their care during the course of a long long day. Box stalls on course would obviously be desirable but aren’t available at Melton. The yearlings when the premier trotting sale was on managed to stand in the tie up stalls for for virtually all day. Granted some racehorses may find it more difficult but that I guess is part of the difference between being a racehorse and being a good racehorse.

    As a one off, or on infrequent occasions such as features, it would be possible to make the stalls more hospitable to horses with comfort flooring mats, or perhaps shavings or straw. And whilst it would be an additional responsibility for stable staff they could be walked.

    Granted they don’t race immediately on arrival but what is the length of a racehorses journey from western Victoria to Menangles environs by truck, where they are confined to a stall for a journey? I don’t think any of the transports stops and unloads on the journey anymore. Certainly one of the horse transport companies no longer stops and does a 24 hour leg between the quarantine station in Kalgoolie and their base near Adelaide whilst the horses stand in their stalls.

    At the barest minimum the horses we export to North America will stand in stalls for 24 hours as they undertake the journey. Those that go via the polar route, as many now do, to disembark on the East Coast will be a minimum of 36 hours in the narrow confines of the shipping crate and longer still if there are unexpected delays on the journey. No one in Australia seems to quote “animal welfare” as a reason not to sell them for export to the US.

    So whilst standing them in the stalls at Melton for long periods during a race meeting may not be ideal I don’t think as an industry we can say solely on the basis of animal welfare that it can’t be done. Some shipping in from the further reaches of the state in an early race, with a stable mate in the last, and then shipping home again that night are already standing in a confined space for extended periods of time.

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    Centenario has been scratched from his semi
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    Shame for him to go amiss, won’t be back until 4yo season I’ve read

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    Andy Gath's Vicbred semi finalist Night Spirit, R9 No.13 tonight, won at Cranbourne last night - an unusual preparation for a 2yo nowadays

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#CRC28061909

    https://www.harness.org.au/racing/fi...19#MXM29061905

    The emergency is already getting a start in that semi after finishing 9/9 in his heat - we hardly needed heats and semi's
    Last edited by Messenger; 06-29-2019 at 12:09 PM.
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    9 semis down and the Stewart stable has won 6 and come second in the other 3

    Barrier draws have started and they have won there too
    Drawing 1&2 in the 2yo fillies and the 3yo boys
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    Congratulations to our finalists, breeder Rick, Anne with 2 winners and Grant (em) who could still have a runner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Congratulations to our finalists, breeder Rick, Anne with 2 winners and Grant (em) who could still have a runner
    Thanks Kevin. Just wasn’t my night!!

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