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    Where are the 2yo's ?

    It's almost the end of January and Vic has just had its first 2yo race. Just 6 runners. Normally they would have started in early December and then been 2 or 3 a week, so we would have normally had 10 to 15 2yo races by now.
    This will follow through to next seasons 3yo's, this is the result of the reduction in mares being bred and the lack of encouragement to breed horses.
    I don't think the people running the show seem to realize the severity of this problem. Within the next few years fields bigger than 6 runners will be rare and they will be lucky to be able to fill 6 races per meeting .
    I think they need to start rewarding people for breeding their mares before it's too late. They need to do something to get every broodmare owner to breed this season.
    I've been in the sport for over 30 years and this is by far the worst start to the 2yo season I have seen.
    Don't die wondering !

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    I feel it is still very early. Our aus ones are only just starting to trial (possibly 1 this weekend). Nz one raced a couple weeks back but only because he had to qualify for the Young Guns final. It's not good on them to be pushed early I dont think. Theres no rush

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    Katie, some people may be saving their horses for later in the season but that doesn't explain the lack of 2yo's. Peter Manning would normally have 10 to 15 ready to race by now. You just have to look at the trail results to see that there are just none around. I always like to check how the new season stallions are going at the early trials and races but this season there is nothing.
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    Oh we've had a fair few 2 year old trials over here in WA already.
    Is to worthwhile racing so early? Are there many races for them to be in? That's probably more the question.

    Both Monday and Tuesday we have a 2yo race. Small fields yes you're right but also the first big 2yo races arent until late feb/March but a couple Pet Rocks and Renaissance Man are in.

    I'm still positive for the industry. Saw a tweet today re: QLD yearling sale and how results were positive
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    Also 4 trials at pinjarra with 4 in each trial on Sunday and 16 trialed on Wed at Bunbury (3trials). Still waiting for byford.. not sure if trials were run

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    Going off at a bit of a tangent here (thinking of next years 2yo's) but a friend noticed the positive spin on the Brisbane APG sale

    http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=36212

    You would expect some improvement due to supply and demand when there are 42% fewer lots on offer with only 41 going through the ring (compared to 71 last year)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messenger View Post
    Going off at a bit of a tangent here (thinking of next years 2yo's) but a friend noticed the positive spin on the Brisbane APG sale

    http://www.harness.org.au/media-room...?news_id=36212

    You would expect some improvement due to supply and demand when there are 42% fewer lots on offer with only 41 going through the ring (compared to 71 last year)
    I watched the QLD Sales via the live streaming. I agree that supply and demand is no doubt a factor but of the 41 foals that went around they were some of the best looking foals going around. Lot 28 a Big Jim was an absolute cracker. Would not surprise me in the slightest if quiet a number feature in the APG Finals over the next couple of years.

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    2 x trials with 6 in each at Menangle tomorrow: Shoobees Place and A Rock N Roll Dance both have babies in.
    (also for personal note, a foal out of a half sister to the dam of our boy Jack Mac )

    and in the 2yo trial at young, there's a horse out of a sire called Windradyne.. His two winners to date (from 33 foals and 8 starters) have won $60k

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTQ View Post
    2 x trials with 6 in each at Menangle tomorrow: Shoobees Place and A Rock N Roll Dance both have babies in.
    (also for personal note, a foal out of a half sister to the dam of our boy Jack Mac )

    and in the 2yo trial at young, there's a horse out of a sire called Windradyne.. His two winners to date (from 33 foals and 8 starters) have won $60k
    Windradyne (a Classic Garry son) who is now 20 is a very interesting one Katie because HRA are not crediting him with having any progeny since 2011/12 and HarnessWeb don't have a service summary for him post 2010/11

    Ah Ha you didn't say it is a 2yo+ (not that the race description does either)

    Barkway Dulcie = Windradyne x Karamea Soky

    She is an 8yo making her debut

    It might seem a bit late but she is the only named foal of Karamea Soky - good luck to the Hoys, they deserve it
    Karamea Soky's 2 other foals who are yet to make it to the races - but we won't give up on them yet as they are only a 6yo and a 4yo are both out of Kadoopy
    Haven't heard of Kadoopy (Albert Albert) either?
    He has only had 1 make it to the track and YES, he (Barkway Arnold) was out of another Hoy mare

    Fields for Young trials:

    http://www.harness.org.au/form.cfm?mc=YU300118T#2
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