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    Media release from SA.

    https://www.harness.org.au/media-roo...?news_id=39689

    SA not waiting on HRA Ratings System, immediate change to field selection based on prizemoney last 5 starts. Things are really crook for both codes in SA, particularly trots.

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    https://www.harness.org.au/media-roo...?news_id=40155

    Implementation details for the HRA ratings scheme.

    Am I reading this right, HRV have set a date to implement the new handicapping system but have not yet consulted with participants on how they intend to program races or distribute prizemoney under the new handicapping scheme? Mind boggling if thats the case.

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    Not saying our system will be the same as NZ but without information on programming how do we know. Whilst it’s important to reduce the number of short priced favourites to improve wagering returns it’s important to remember that not every race can be programmed with that as its primary aim. It’s important and part of the cost of running the business to allow young inexperienced horse to race other young inexperienced horses to develop the grounding to fill make up the fields for those races that are more profitable for turnover.

    https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/racing/t...capping-system

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    Having my first look at the new ratings being displayed
    Looking at Menangle today, I can see it could still take a long time for a horse who is now a shadow of his former self to be rated to succeed

    Desdon Murruffy has a record 132-19-14-8 = $168,904
    He has not been placed in any of his 28 starts in the last 2 seasons
    His NR is 90

    Fat Prophet has a record 127-23-7-17 = $148,443
    He has won 9 times in the last 2 seasons (73 starts mind you)
    His NR is 90

    I do not know the NSW form, maybe Brenno can tell me if these ratings are fair enough
    They both race in C5+ races today under the old system

    ps It may be that Des is simply a victim of the system being used to initially transition horses from the old to the new system. Being an M2 he cops 95 with the maximum reduction for his last five being -5
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    R9 at Menangle tonight - if this was under the new system we would have a ratings range of 50 - 103

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#PCM11051908
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    Or what about the Gp3 Angelique Cup at Melton tonight
    We would have from 75 - 120 if the new ratings system was in place
    Both Stewart runners
    and the the 75 Frankincense has to start from 7 compared to Berisari 120 coming from 4 because it is PBD/$L4

    http://www.harness.org.au/racing/fie...19#MXM11051904
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    Maybe, just maybe, the perceived problems aren't anything to do with the structure of a class system but more to do with a small horse population.

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    The small horse population makes any system pretty hard.
    You will still have a wide range of ratings within a classic type field - The RBHS would account for the core of most race programs but a lot of races would also be programmed outside the RBHS; classics, futurities, free-for-alls, etc.
    Using the mares triple crown as an example, will all three races simply be PBD rating?
    Seeded draws?
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    Monday June 3, 2019

    Harness Racing Victoria (HRV) this morning released the racing program for July – the first month of the national ratings-based handicapping system.

    View the programs here https://www.thetrots.com.au/for-part...harness-racer/

    “It’s important our participants have as much time as possible to plan their programs for July and so I want to thank my team for their hard work and methodical approach to ensuring these programs were ready to go this week,” HRV General Manager – Racing Stephen Bell said.

    “Moving forward, initially we’ll be releasing the programs on a month-by-month basis to ensure we can be as dynamic as possible and provide the right programs for our horse population, then we’ll move towards releasing programs in two-month blocks.

    “Importantly we’ll be critically reviewing everything as we go, flexible and willing to tinker with our approach to programming depending on the fluidity of horse population.”

    HRV has set an e-mail and would love to hear feedback on all aspects of the new system: rbhs@hrv.org.au

    Programs for August will be published on Monday July 1.

    Bell will be on RSN’s Gait Speed tomorrow morning with Blake Redden.
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    Are you allowed to go in a race higher than your rating? Eg 68 rater go in the 70-80 rating races?

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