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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashing Red View Post
    Like me when I had to drive 3 hours to Poconos, to get there 4 hours before the race for lasix, the horse won and we get the 2 hour post race as well? Then the 3 hour drive back? Hahahaha!
    WOW thats insane, takes a trainers whole day away.

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    I did it twice, the first time I ran 6th so I didn;t even get a cheque! Hurt a lot more than when I did! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by remington View Post
    clearly there is a problem, i have been a victim of loosing races to trainers i believe use "something special" to improve horses, no trainer or there facilities can improve horses in 1 week like a select few NSW trainers, but maybe the stewards need to do more to try to catch those cheating. B.Kelly was followed on his way to the races with Greg Kelly when they caught him why not set up similar stings on trainers they suspect?
    They do have similar procedures Jackson Grant oops Remington.
    They stayed around at D Thorns one day and they followed Rob Anderson to Young one day...and those examples are just what has been said on this forum in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    They do have similar procedures Jackson Grant oops Remington.
    They stayed around at D Thorns one day and they followed Rob Anderson to Young one day...and those examples are just what has been said on this forum in the past.
    i had herd about Thorn but not Anderson. There is one trainer that i still cant understand how he (or his little side kick, with a massive nose) hasnt be caught, he bought a horse that ran 7th by 48metres at a non tab meeting, 8 days later races in a TAB meeting and wins by nine metres never looked like loosing.

    Flashing red, that really would be frustrating. Is it random as to who has to be at the races 4 hours prior to be tested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by remington View Post
    i had herd about Thorn but not Anderson. There is one trainer that i still cant understand how he (or his little side kick, with a massive nose) hasnt be caught, he bought a horse that ran 7th by 48metres at a non tab meeting, 8 days later races in a TAB meeting and wins by nine metres never looked like loosing.

    Flashing red, that really would be frustrating. Is it random as to who has to be at the races 4 hours prior to be tested?
    Some say that horse rose from the metaphorical death bed
    The 4 hours prior thing is so the horses can get given their lasix

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiebreno View Post
    Some say that horse rose from the metaphorical death bed
    The 4 hours prior thing is so the horses can get given their lasix
    They must play some amazing music in that stable to assist in improving them.

    Totally forgot that lasix is allowed to be vet administed in the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by remington View Post
    Flashing red, that really would be frustrating. Is it random as to who has to be at the races 4 hours prior to be tested?
    Any horse on lasix Its administered by a vet oncourse.
    The 2 hour post race TC02 testing afterwards however is random (ie not all winners), but all winners (and sometimes another random in the race) gets a post race urine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remington View Post
    clearly there is a problem, i have been a victim of loosing races to trainers i believe use "something special" to improve horses, no trainer or there facilities can improve horses in 1 week like a select few NSW trainers, but maybe the stewards need to do more to try to catch those cheating. B.Kelly was followed on his way to the races with Greg Kelly when they caught him why not set up similar stings on trainers they suspect?
    Hi remington, I agree with you about the stewards doing more to catch the cheats. There are quite a few measures they can take. The one that Flashing Red suggests - 2 hour post race TCO2 tests is a great one, but I've always suspected the stewards may fear that they could be opening an inevitable "Pandora's Box."

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    I'd like to clarify a point on the stewards pursuing the cheats.If they are going to insist on a drug free sport then they should apply it rigorously - not one where a fine is applied to a positive and a suspension to another. Having said that I, for one am not against therapeutic drugs being allowed and that includes many that are banned at the moment. However a detailed list should be made of what is acceptable and whats not. A few years ago one of our doctors on our Olympic team suggested allowing drugs in sport so long as it was monitored by a medically qualified person and I fully supported the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mighty Atom View Post
    I'd like to clarify a point on the stewards pursuing the cheats.If they are going to insist on a drug free sport then they should apply it rigorously - not one where a fine is applied to a positive and a suspension to another. Having said that I, for one am not against therapeutic drugs being allowed and that includes many that are banned at the moment. However a detailed list should be made of what is acceptable and whats not. A few years ago one of our doctors on our Olympic team suggested allowing drugs in sport so long as it was monitored by a medically qualified person and I fully supported the idea.
    hi mighty atom, this could be a fantastic idea, could allow some horses to reach there full potential.

    i noticed the trainer i mentioned early had roughly 9 runners across 3 different venues (includeding a non tab meeting which he would usually dominate) and only picked up one winner. i think the stewards could be breathing down his neck, BRAVO

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