Now your getting it Jamie, maternal families much better then sire lines. Brett I presume writes the Alabar Newsletter? He seems to be getting more interested in pedigree philosphy too. Speaking of Maternal Families you know the pedigree for Go the Goose is wrong in the Tesio program? Its actually much better then it appears but then if you don't do pedigrees but form and function then it doesn't matter. But most importantly for you as a seller it was right in the pacing gold catalogue but I doubt to many people would actually check.