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nat
11-18-2010, 07:33 PM
Hey Thomas Mitchell you were true to your word about making a new style race bike how is it going are there any takers to use your new bike at any NZ meet covered on sky this weekend so we can see a bit more of the bike in action.

Has anyone used it yet that can compare it to some of the other brands?

MasterK
11-19-2010, 12:04 AM
It was available for use on Cup day but i dont think anyone wanted to try it. Its said to be much like the evolution sulky except a bit cheaper

Thomas Mitchell
11-20-2010, 03:11 PM
Hi Nat, the Apex sulky was approved for use in NZ the day before Cup day. However, as expected few were willing to change anything on such a big raceday.
I am not sure if Sky will be covering the Timaru races tomorrow (Saturday) but Bruce Hutton will be using his in a number of races. Also, another red Apex sulky will be available for any other trainer to use if they wish.

A number of drivers have used the sulky including Nigel Mcgrath, Anthony Butt, Jimmy Curtin, Shane Walkinshaw, Blair Orange, Peter Ferguson and Ricky May. All have liked the sulky, with Ricky May who has driven a huge amount in Benny Hills American sulkies saying it feels exactly the same as them. Bruce Hutton said it is more comfortable to sit in and bought one right then and there.

They really are a fantastic sulky. They are perfectly balanced with the drivers weight over the wheels. They track beautifully due to the cambered wheels and are very rigid allowing all the power to be directed to the wheels, and not lost through flexing.

The Apex sulky is aroud half the price of the evolution sulky.

nat
11-20-2010, 05:11 PM
Geee's durrr on me Thomas didn't even click that it was you on this forum well done I remember when we commented on Harnesslike about the evolution sulky.

When is it available in OZ as it looks the good's you should be on a winner how do they go on half mile tracks they should track good around the turns

Jimmy
11-20-2010, 06:13 PM
Hi Thomas, can you give us an up date on the name "Apex" where did that come from? One other question, do you rent your sulky, or let the trainers use it for free ?

Thomas Mitchell
11-20-2010, 06:41 PM
The tighter the track is, the more of an advantage the Apex sulky is. While your competitors bikes are sledging outwards on the turns and not tracking favouably those using the Apex will enjoy perfect tracking due to its angled wheels which effectively dig into the bend, much like a race cars when cornering.

I have looked into sending a sulky to Australia. However, it is very costly and they end up keeping the bike once tested. I have decided to focus on NZ for the next couple of weeks before sending one over there as I had great interest form many Australians over Cup Week. With some assured sales in the form of pre orders this would happen much sooner rather than later.

Jimmy, I have had one sulky around Canterbury for the past couple of weeks. It will be at the Timaru races available for free use to any trainer. This sulky will then spend a few weeks in Southland with Kirk and Michelle Larson who will be allowing anybody to trial it free of charge.

Apex is just one of those random brand names that just came to us when we were brainstorming. Apex, the top, the pinnacle.

Jimmy
11-20-2010, 07:27 PM
Thanks Thomas for all that info, as you would beware that the Walsh company is trailing the wider sulky in Australia at the moment, if the wider sulky was approved would you be looking at designing the "Apex" wider or just keep it as is ?

Thomas Mitchell
11-20-2010, 08:08 PM
Jimmy,
I had seen that on Harnesslink. It is something that we may look at in the future, but I truely believe the Apex is currently the best sulky on the market as it is. The advantage with having a wide sulky is obviously getting it closer to the horse. However, it needs to sit the close quarter racing we have in NZ and Aus.

eljay
11-21-2010, 06:49 PM
The main requirement for winning, is not the sulky, but what is pulling it!!

Thomas Mitchell
11-21-2010, 07:22 PM
Entirely agree eljay!

But, in a sport which often comes down to 0.1 of a second its worth looking at the technology side of things. How often do we see races come down to a neck, head or nose. Who knows, if they were using the Apex or any other high performance sulky the horse that runs second by a nose may have been winning by a nose.

The Apex sulky will not make a slow horse win the NZ cup. But it will make it a little less slow. Just like it will make a fast horse a little bit faster.

People often see these new wheels and new sulkies as expensive, but it only takes one or two wins that you may have usually run second in to pay for itself.

If technology is not important, Lance Armstrong and Sarah Ulmer may as well go and grab an old road bike from the shed and use that in the Tour de France and on the track. Team NZ should stop spending millions on boat development and just buy Oracle and Alingis old boats and Roger Federer should just use an old wooden racquet like McEnroe used.

Eljay I do agree that the horse itself is the most important factor in winning a race. But the sulky is a tool which can be used to enhance the horses performance and give those using it the advantage. If the sulky doesn't matter, we may as well just use our work carts on them.

eljay
11-25-2010, 04:32 PM
Thomas (of course) my tongue was in my cheek when I posted that......

TimTam
02-23-2011, 10:39 PM
I am interest in this sulky were do you get them from and what are the cost of one.

Thomas Mitchell
02-25-2011, 01:37 PM
Hi there,

The cost is $4000 +GST including mudguards, quick-hitch saftety straps, dustsheet and straps plus customised colour and graphics.

Please contact me on 027 326 1143 or sales.antrim@gmail.com

Thanks,

Thomas.

nat
02-25-2011, 02:07 PM
Hi Thomas

It seems an age since we first talked about your bikes on Harnesslinks how is it all going in NZ with your bikes are they getting the kudos that they deserve for going outside the box and having a go at the $$$ US imports. Is the Apex getting any wide usage form any big players that we can watch on Sky and is there anywhere we can see good pic's of the Apex?

Cheers Nat

Thomas Mitchell
02-26-2011, 03:15 PM
Hi Nat,

The sulkies are performing really well. All the Trainers and Drivers who have used it have been impressed. Unfortunately, there just isn't any money around which has limited sales.

If you email me I can email a few pictures through.

In the long term I would like to get the Apex approved for use in Australia. However this is a costly exercise with no confirmed sales.

Cheers,

Thomas.