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Richard prior
03-04-2018, 11:22 PM
Now that the great Bettor’s Delight and Art Major are getting on in years and the sad and tragic demise of Somebeachsomewhere, There might be an opportunity for a young stallion to throw down the gauntlet and challenge the elderly masters.

Adaptor
03-05-2018, 05:00 PM
Now that the great Bettor’s Delight and Art Major are getting on in years and the sad and tragic demise of Somebeachsomewhere, There might be an opportunity for a young stallion to throw down the gauntlet and challenge the elderly masters.

Firstly they need to have numbers, and the support of a very good band of mares...so that looks to be a stallion at one of the big stallion stations. It also helps if the yearlings in big numbers then go to a skilled trainer and they perform as 2yo's to keep the mares coming to the stallion.

I'm thinking A RocknRoll Dance fits the criteria, and with pedigree and performance credentials to back it up.

And....If I'm correct, Rasmussen Theory through the mare Wendymae Hanover

Richard prior
03-05-2018, 05:48 PM
Thanks Noel, ARD is very well bred and off to a good start throwing a nice 2yr old feature winner at GP on Friday night, Its Rock and Roll from a Bettors Delight mare, Nice time as well, 1.56.6

Adaptor
03-05-2018, 08:56 PM
Thanks Noel, ARD is very well bred and off to a good start throwing a nice 2yr old feature winner at GP on Friday night, Its Rock and Roll from a Bettors Delight mare, Nice time as well, 1.56.6

Full book in the USA at Diamond Creek eligible the Pennsylvania sires stakes !
From their website:
A Rocknroll Dance dominated the track with his grit and toughness. At 2, he equaled the world record and was the richest 2-year old that year. He then won the Meadowlands Pace and the Battle of the Brandywine at 3, leading up to his 4 year-old year when A Rocknroll Dance became the first horse to win 3 consecutive starts in sub 1:48.

Richard prior
03-06-2018, 06:32 PM
A Rocknroll Dance also sired the 2yr old of the year in the USA in 2017 from an Artiscape mare, Lost in Time 1.50.1 and 608k, Dam from the Minnehaha clan

Richard prior
03-07-2018, 07:46 AM
Roll with Joe going great guns in Nth America and showing lots of promise here
In Nth America
377 Registered foals
197 Starters
150 in 2.00
89 in 1.55
12.2 mill earnings

Rob Nalder
03-12-2018, 10:37 PM
Richard,
I think I should throw out the early stats around The Blaster, From only 69 foals on ground in his 1st year at Stud he has delivered 7 Starters (up to now) to get to the races for 3 winners. I know it is only early days but his stock have hit the ground running. All the 2 year old from his first crop so far really look the goods. To add further merit just look at the mares that have produced his winners to date and I think you would agree he is doing something very special that other stallions that the mares have been too have not been able to achieve. As I said early days but just look at the numbers and stats so far and we could not be prouder of what he is delivering. Talking to the trainers that have Blasters just franks what I am seeing in his stock. His next starter is at Bathurst this Wednesday night race 6 number 3 from memory in the fillies race. As we all know the Stallions that make the grade do so by leaving stats from very limited numbers and from the grass roots of owner Breeders that races his stock. Time and numbers will decide if what we feel he is doing hits the mark with all our Breeders. All the best and keep an eye on The Blasters

Roll with Joe going great guns in Nth America and showing lots of promise here
In Nth America
377 Registered foals
197 Starters
150 in 2.00
89 in 1.55
12.2 mill earnings

Danno
03-12-2018, 10:59 PM
Richard,
I think I should throw out the early stats around The Blaster, From only 69 foals on ground in his 1st year at Stud he has delivered 7 Starters (up to now) to get to the races for 3 winners. I know it is only early days but his stock have hit the ground running. All the 2 year old from his first crop so far really look the goods. To add further merit just look at the mares that have produced his winners to date and I think you would agree he is doing something very special that other stallions that the mares have been too have not been able to achieve. As I said early days but just look at the numbers and stats so far and we could not be prouder of what he is delivering. Talking to the trainers that have Blasters just franks what I am seeing in his stock. His next starter is at Bathurst this Wednesday night race 6 number 3 from memory in the fillies race. As we all know the Stallions that make the grade do so by leaving stats from very limited numbers and from the grass roots of owner Breeders that races his stock. Time and numbers will decide if what we feel he is doing hits the mark with all our Breeders. All the best and keep an eye on The Blasters

Great to see he has hit the ground running Rob, industry average for 2YO winners is about 5% and he is already thereabouts very early in the season, he has always looked like a horse that would make a stallion, lets hope things continue in that vein.


cheers,

dan

Richard prior
03-13-2018, 06:24 AM
Hey Rob, That’s great to hear, I’ll be watching with a lot of interest

gutwagon
03-14-2018, 01:10 PM
The next superstar stallion will need to be able to cross well with Art Major, Bettors and SBSW mares. So ARD will do that and I will add Always B Miki as my tip as he will mix well with them .
Good to see CB doing well, also good to see some locally bred stallions getting some mares.

Jimbob
03-15-2018, 01:25 PM
I think a Rock n Roll Heaven is next in line. Is doing a fantastic job so far, I put a post about the three sires from Rocknroll Hanover a while back. Who knows what the future holds though?

halfyourluck
03-15-2018, 03:45 PM
I see Shoobees Place who only has 29 currently living foals in his first crop (current 2yo's) already has 2 winners from his 4 starters, and one of the non winners seems to have a fair measure of ability as well.

Messenger
03-15-2018, 04:46 PM
U20 is a family that has produced a few sires especially from the Shifting Sands arm (5th dam)
Here is ClassicFamilies link to his 4th dam Shifting Scene - it gives you enough little + boxes to open without going further back
You will find a couple of millionaires and a double millionaire in there plus Grinfromeartoear's 2nd dam is his 3rd dam

http://classicfamilies.net/CF/Descendants.aspx?HorseID=10017986

Messenger
07-05-2018, 08:13 PM
Looking at the Leading sires before we have Saturday's Vicbred finals

On the 2yo table

American Ideal has the top 2 earners and 3 in the top 11
Mach Three has 3 in the top 8 and altogether 4 in the top 14
Art Major has 3 in the top 13
The only other with multiples is Sportswriter with 19 & 20
Bettors Delight only has 1 (Hurricane Harley at 7 with an ↑)

http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/reports/top20/index.cfm/starters/all2yo/sort/stakes/seasonId/501?d=05072018

On the 3yo table

Rock N Roll Heaven has 1 - 5 - 20
Somebeachsomewhere has 2 & 8
Roll With Joe has 4 & 13
Bettors Delight has 10 & 16

http://www.harness.org.au/ausbreed/reports/top20/index.cfm/starters/all3yo/sort/stakes/seasonId/501?d=05072018