2019 MM, NSW Derby, NSW Oaks, & Ladyship Mile

[Messenger]

The draws are complete

$1,000,000 AINSWORTH MIRACLE MILE (GROUP 1 - GRAND CIRCUIT EVENT). Pacers. GRAND CIRCUIT EVENT. 1609m. MS.

1--111 POSTER BOY, Chris Alford C9 M3 FT
2--741 THEFIXER NZ, C10 M6 FT
3--271 CHASE AUCKLAND NZ, C8 M2 FT
4--891 YAYAS HOT SPOT NZ, Lachie Manzelmann (C) C16 M3 FT
5--524 OUR UNCLE SAM, Anthony Frisby C10 M2 FT Em 1
6--332 MY ALPHA ROCK NZ, Lauren Tritton C15 M7 FT
7--121 SPANKEM NZ, C5 M4 FT
8--112 TIGER TARA NZ, Todd McCarthy C32 M25 FT
9--145 MY FIELD MARSHAL NZ, Anthony Butt C21 M16 FT
10--383 CRUZ BROMAC NZ, C18 M11 FT Em 2


$200,000 NSW OAKS FINAL (GROUP 1). 3YO Fillies. RBD. 2400m. MS.

1--153 MISS STREISAND NZ, Chris Geary (C) 3C5 FT
2--163 LADY ROCKNROLLA, Greg Sugars 3C2 FT
3--422 n OUR ROAD TO MECCA, Mat Rue 3C0 FT
4--114 MISS HALFPENNY, Gavin Fitzpatrick 3C2 FT Em 1
5--222 ARABELLA STAR, Zac Phillips (C) 3C1 FT
6--4s1 OUR PRINCESS TIFFANY NZ, Natalie Rasmusse 3C1 FT
7--s14 TWO TIMES BETTOR, Chris Alford 3C1 FT Em 2
8--113 CHEESY FINGERS NZ, Anthony Butt 3C3 FT
9--142 ENCHANTED STRIDE, David Miles 3C1 FT
10--331 TANGOINGWITHSIERRA, Zac Phillips (C) 3C3 FT
11--111 KUALOA, Chris Alford 3C3 FT
12--s34 SWIMSUIT EDITION, Luke McCarthy 3C0 FT

$200,000 NSW DERBY FINAL (GROUP 1). 3YO Colts and Geldings. RBD. 2400m. MS.

1--124 CRIME WRITER, Matthew Craven 3C2 FT Em 2
2--611 CENTENARIO, Chris Alford 3C2 FT
3--212 MUSCLE FACTORY, Lauren Tritton 3C2 FT
4--613 WAR DAN DELIGHT NZ, Luke McCarthy 3C2 FT
5--204 HARDHITTER, Chris Alford 3C0 FT
6--013 HURRICANE HARLEY, Amanda Turnbull 3C2 FT
7--822 MALCOLMS RHYTHM, Luke McCarthy 3C6 FT
8--124 IM ANOTHERMASTERPIECE NZ, Natalie Rasmus 3C2 FT Em 1
9--532 MAX DELIGHT, Todd McCarthy 3C3 FT
10--321 LOCHINVAR ART, Luke McCarthy 3C2 FT
11--113 FOURBIGMEN, Chris Alford 3C2 FT
12--711 DEMON DELIGHT, Amanda Turnbull 3C4 FT

$200,000 LADYSHIP MILE (GROUP 1). Mares. Mares. RBD. 1609m. MS.

1--s77 EYE SEE DIAMONDS, Amanda Turnbull C11 M4 FT Em 2
2--412 OUR DREAM ABOUT ME NZ, C14 M9 FT
3--112 ARTS TREASURE, James Rattray C3 M1 FT
4--513 BRIDGET BLUE CHIP NZ, Lachie Manzelmann (C C8 M1 FT
5--594 SOHO BURNING LOVE, Michael Stanley C7 M2 FT
6--5s1 CARLAS PIXEL, C15 M10 FT
7--311 MAJOR OCCASION, Anthony Frisby C7 M2 FT
8--164 CHERRY STRIDE, Cameron Hart (C) C7 M2 FT
9--456 MAKES EVERY SCENTS, Kima Frenning (C) C11 M4 FT Em 1
10--755 VILLAGE WITCH, Jack Trainor C19 M5 FT
11--143 SHARE THE ROAD NZ, Luke McCarthy C8 M1 FT
12--311 TELL ME TALES, Chris Alford C15 M5 FT

https://www.hrnsw.com.au/uploads/files/media%20releases/menangle0203.pdf

[Messenger]

Not official as I cannot find it anywhere but somebody told me that Natalie Rasmussen has been suspended for 8 weeks

Remember this:

An inquiry was opened into the running and handling of CHASE AUCKLAND NZ in the home straight on the final occasion. Following driver N Rasmussen providing an explanation into her drive, the inquiry was adjourned to allow Stewards to make further inquiries into the running of the event. The inquiry is set to resume at Menangle, Saturday 23rd February.

https://www.hrnsw.com.au/racing/stewards/stewardsreports/2552

[Messenger]

It is official

https://nationaltrotguide.com.au/suspension-brings-rasmussen-sense-of-deja-vu/

[teecee]

http://www.allstarsracingstables.com/news3

[aussiebreno]

Are there any NSW horses in these races? :p

[Messenger]

I hope we are going to see some detail of the Rasmussen investigation today - 8 weeks when driving the favourite in a Gp1 requires an explanation for the public

[Messenger]

Anybody found anything?
Do HRNSW do supplementary reports like Vic or where will we find it
To quote the Trotguide article:

"Stewards deemed that Rasmussen failed to give the four-year-old all reasonable chance in the Group One"

What are they suggesting?

https://nationaltrotguide.com.au/suspension-brings-rasmussen-sense-of-deja-vu/

[arlington]

Includes supplementary from the Chariots
http://www.harness.org.au/racing/stewards-reports/stewards-reports-detail/?mc=PC230219

[Messenger]

Thanks Wayne (suspended Saturday night but no details until Tuesday morning is average)
I would have liked to have seen what Rasmussen's explanation was

[aussiebreno]

Rc1. Franco Landry to cross Double Encounter which means The Bus won't find the pegs. Therefore race is between Franco Landry and Wrangler. Tri 3-8 / 1-3-4-8 / 1-3-4-8
Rc2. War Dan Destroyer with advantage of draw and home track but Big Jack Hammer the better horse. Tough Monarch will come across and apply pressure. Blazing Under Fire probably the value runner as will slot 1-1 or 1-2 do no work and things coming 3wide probably get a stitch so will get a run. Problem is can't eat value if it finishes 4th behind the main 3 players.
Rc3. The draw was always going to decide the favourite but I think $1.55 Princess Tiffany still represents value. Would be quite the upset if Kualoa can win from the carpark.
Rc4. I think the market will close the gap (even more than it has in past 24hrs) between Dream About Me and Tell Me Tales. $6.50 Tell Me Tales on Ladbrokes represents a good trading opportunity I feel. Carlas Pixel $1.60 to place with TAB looks a lock.
Rc5. Muscle Factory a lay. Can't see Centenario handing up. So either have to give Centanario an easy lead and Centerario probably wins with MF close up in the finish as is likely to happen. Or possibly try and lead, which really brings Hurricane Harley into it and even Lochinvar Art and Demon Delight.
Rc6. San Carlo $7/$2.30. 3 drawn inside him are traditionally hand up horses. He has his fair share of gate speed. He is a stayer. Really good race but he is terrific value
Rc7. Every runner has likely scenarios where they can't win the race. Poster Boy doesn't see daylight. Field Marshall too far back. Tiger Tara burnt too early. The Fixer probably the safest go to be in the photo at the finish but a no bet race for mine
Rc8. Stewart juggernaut roll on?
Rc9 Picard will be leading this, Black Prince on his back, Ignatius to the chair. Ignatius probably bounces back and wins. But Black Prince $31/$4.80 worth a nibble. Beaten length Picard similar circumstances a few weeks ago but Picard might have hit the wall now and the racing at this level may have helped Black Prince. Let It Ride probably fly down the outside fence and knock Black Prince back to 4th right on the line!

Ripper meeting.

[teecee]

Natalie appeals suspension...
Compliments All Stars website

http://www.allstarsracingstables.com/news3

[Messenger]

Natalie appeals suspension...
Compliments All Stars website

http://www.allstarsracingstables.com/news3

and will be driving at Menangle

[Messenger]

Both Tritton runners in the MM are 200/1
Does that mean the selection/elimination process has failed?

[teecee]

and will be driving at Menangle

Always was. Suspension did not apply to Menangle.

[teecee]

Both Tritton runners in the MM are 200/1
Does that mean the selection/elimination process has failed?

It can be said that it may be one of a number of reasons along with the perception of bookies who don't select the field.
The amount of money invested on them compared to other runners.
Certainly the selection process appears flawed or in the minds of some, a joke or a farce.
The Miracle Mile has always been by invitation. From its earliest times there was never a dearth of the very best trying to achieve an invite and 6 of the VERY BEST around Australia and later when travel made it easier, Australasia, succeeded in getting an invite and thus coming together to put on truly the race of the year. (Even allowing for the glamour and horse class of the NZ Cup). The selectors of the field of only 6 (no emergencies !!!!) in those times had something the selectors of today are very lacking in. IMHO and that of many others.
The MM is the one race in the world of any code that a place in it was the ultimate for anyone involved in the sport. Hence the horses were so even and the odds on each also. There was never a need to change the conditions of entry as has been done. That include but not restricted to the change of venue and track size. That this has been done so often over a relatively short period of time is the classic case in point the well known sayings... If it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Leave well alone !!!

[Dot]

With Tee Cee here I’d like to see the MM go back to an invitation race. The qualifying race format leads to the possibility of best on the day not best overall gaining a start with potentially barrier draw playing too large a part and, as has happened here suggestions of some only doing enough to qualify not impress.

$1m+ invitation race 6 runners plus emergencies to ensure field size of 6 with a $1m+ pick six pool for punters and barrier draw on the sails of the opera house for mine!

[Messenger]

$1.85 million on offer at Menangle tonight
(of course Randwick still has us covered even today!)

[aussiebreno]

The system was only Majordan galloping at Newcastle off being in the field and Cruz Bromac a whisker off being in the field in place of those two. With that you've got the fastest open age miler and ID favourite so would have been a better quality field.
Perhaps an argument only winner goes through from the heats. Lead to better quality run heats. Probably have to put heats back to Chariots night if that was the case - too hard to run 1.49 heat week then 1.48 final week.
With the 6V8 can we compromise with 7? Wide barrier and last pairs don't do well in a Miracle Mile, but the danger of being the last pair makes the pace greater in the first 400m which brings the middle pairs more in to the race. If only 6 horses can see there being no great urgency in finding a forward spot and we get lackadaisical first halves.

[Dot]

I could go with 7 and a pick 7! Story on a horse for everyday of the week for the lead in. Isn’t 7 most people’s pick as a lucky number? That can only help

[Messenger]

The system was only Majordan galloping at Newcastle off being in the field and Cruz Bromac a whisker off being in the field in place of those two. With that you've got the fastest open age miler and ID favourite so would have been a better quality field.
Perhaps an argument only winner goes through from the heats. Lead to better quality run heats. Probably have to put heats back to Chariots night if that was the case - too hard to run 1.49 heat week then 1.48 final week.
With the 6V8 can we compromise with 7? Wide barrier and last pairs don't do well in a Miracle Mile, but the danger of being the last pair makes the pace greater in the first 400m which brings the middle pairs more in to the race. If only 6 horses can see there being no great urgency in finding a forward spot and we get lackadaisical first halves.

Winners only on Chariots night and 7 sounds good

[aussiebreno]

I dont think I have seen a more exciting race than the Derby

[Messenger]

David Aiken had 2 in the Derby (v Emma Stewart's 5) and he quinellaed it with $71 and $81 pops
Max Delight was huge doing it both ends in a race where they took 1.2 secs off the Tk Rec

1.51.5 for 2400m

[aussiebreno]

Will Todd ever learn??? Surely he must get sick of being run past in the final 100-200m after burning in the 3rr quarter.

[arlington]

Did Todd read the forum before the MM?

[Messenger]

I dont think I have seen a more exciting race than the Derby

While in the MM the first 400m was sadly as exciting as it got - the tritton's landing Death and 1x1 did not help.
Mile racing generally disappoints

[arlington]

While in the MM the first 400m was sadly as exciting as it got - the tritton's landing Death and 1x1 did not help.
Mile racing generally disappoints


Natalie could have held out Mark. :)

[aussiebreno]

So glad Chase Auckland was included in the field. He added so much too the field..... NOT!!

[Messenger]

Why was it that Kima did not get any of the drives on David Aiken's Gp1 performers?
(a couple of whom she had been the regular driver)

[Dot]

Definately would have been more exciting if Nat held out Mark. Perhaps if we go back to 7 by invitation it’s specified only one invite per stable! That would put the cat among the pidgeons and might see a horse or two shifting homes!

Owners prerogative Kev who drives their horse so you’d have to ask them why, might have felt Kima didn’t have enough experience driving at Menangle.

[arlington]

Why was it that Kima did not get any of the drives on David Aiken's Gp1 performers?
(a couple of whom she had been the regular driver)

Pretty sure suspended.

[Messenger]

No, she had a drive for Craig Cross in R1 Wayne

[arlington]

Didn't see that Kev, my maths must be out.

[Yabbie]

No, she had a drive for Craig Cross in R1 Wayne

and drove Buster Brady