THAT'S how it's done. Tabcorp Pk Menangle 03/09/2011

[triplev123]

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=ME030911

Now THAT'S a Stewards Report. Nice work Chris Paul & Co.

[David Summers]

What a great comprehensive report and so well laid out. Thumbs up fellas , well done :o

[thesushitrain]

victorian ones look like that every week

anyone know how long after the race those blood tests were taken... be interested to see if they are for tco2 or for epo

[triplev123]

Indeed they tend to do so TST but that's not the point.
For far, far too long now ours here in NSW have not...but now, thanks to Mr. Paul, they do.
Three Cheers for him & the Panel that put that together. Long may they continue.

[triplev123]

TST writes [anyone know how long after the race those blood tests were taken... be interested to see if they are for tco2 or for epo]

TC02 testing post race for sure...but EPO/Aranesp/Mircera testing doesn't work that way.

[Thevoiceofreason]

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=ME030911

Now THAT'S a Stewards Report. Nice work Chris Paul & Co.

Chris Paul has been writing stewards reports like that for years he was of course trained at the gallops which you blokes hate also the summary box at the end is another gallops idea.

I should not have told you now you will not like it.

[triplev123]

Not true VOR. There should be more of it. In fact they should let him write them all if he's going to deliver them to that standard. Summary Box= excellent addition.

[Thevoiceofreason]

Not true VOR. There should be more of it. In fact they should let him write them all if he's going to deliver them to that standard. Summary Box= excellent addition.

Good to find a harness bloke with an open mind sure your not from the gallops or have worked in a true regulatory role.

[Flashing Red]

In my experience its the galloping people that bag the trots, not the other way around! I also agree that that report was excellent. :)

[David Summers]

Chris Paul has been writing stewards reports like that for years he was of course trained at the gallops which you blokes hate also the summary box at the end is another gallops idea.

I should not have told you now you will not like it.

Not true. I don't care where you get ideas for new innovations from to improve our sport. I'm also a thoroughbred and greyhounds fan too , so feel free to pinch any of their good ideas, no criticism from me :o

Love the summary box at the end of the report.

[triplev123]

Good to find a harness bloke with an open mind sure your not from the gallops or have worked in a true regulatory role.

[VVV] G'day VOR. That's a no on the TB count though I've worked in a regulatory environment in the past. The way I see it, the Stewards get plenty of brick bats, some deserved, some not so much, & I've been given to deliver the odd one myself when I believe the need has arisen. Equally, I think it's important to hand out boquets when you think things are done right. That piece should go into a Training Manual under 'How to write a Report'.

[bbd]

I don't want to downgrade the stewards report you are all talking about but.. It's only one steward who does it - its not a standard.
Have a look at ANY report form ANY meeting in WA. They have all been doing it that way for years.

The biggest gripe I have with them here in NSW is that it takes so long to get the report onto the website. Sometimes it can take 5 or 6 days. Even the summary comments on the results page can take a while - though mostly they are there the next day.

In other jurisdictions, the results comments are usually there the same day or even as the results of each race go up. The subsequent reports are always available the next day.

So the report you are talking about is good but they have a long way to go to reach the standard in other places.

[triplev123]

G'day BBD,

Pretty much everything you say there I agree with...however to put it in context, as you'd no doubt appreciate we're coming off what has been an ongoing generally low standard as far as the NSW reports are concerned. Some of them have, IMO, been nothing short of abysmal, no question, & they've also left a fair bit to be desired as far as being posted on the national website in a timely manner.
So, to see something like that which Chris Paul & Co. have produced is I think well worth the applause and words of encouragement. As I said, that piece should go into a Training Manual under 'How to write a Report'. It was also up on the website in a timely manner, btw. Cheers once again.

[Thevoiceofreason]

Without seeming to jump to the defence of HRNSW stewards at every opportunity you only have to look at their workload to understand why their reports can take a little longer to get on the website.

In WA they have up to seven with a minimum of three or four stewards at each meeting this type of staffing at most NSW meetings is just not possible. 4 or % at the biggest meeting of the week, much easier to get all the work done also in other states they do not have to back day after day with the very long trips the NSW boys have.

Chrs Paul did a good job getting his up from Saturday night no doubt and as I sadi before he has been writing reports this comprehensive for years now ... he may be one of only a couple .

There are plenty of weeks where they work one or two or even three days in a row at race meetings or are five or six hours from home and have travel there and back. NSW is the only state that is like this, in the other states they the steward fly to the more remote meetings.


I for one am happy to wait if its accurate.

[triplev123]

So am I. I'd rather wait a little while and have an accurate, well written one than get crap one a few hrs after the meeting finishes.

[allsmokedup]

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=BA030911

Not sure if anyone agrees but this about one of the most comprehensive reports i have seen??? Doesnt leave anything to guess

[bbd]

I accept that the NSW stewards sometimes have to officiate a long distance from the headquarters at Bankstown, but this is the 21st century. Surely they are capable of logging into their system remotely. So, whilst I sympathise I don't accept distance as an excuse.

[David Summers]

Here is yesterday's Menangle Stewards Report , released a couple of hours ago , ....... so there :p

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=ME060911

[triplev123]

http://www.harness.org.au/stewards-reports-detail.cfm?mc=BA030911

Not sure if anyone agrees but this about one of the most comprehensive reports i have seen??? Doesnt leave anything to guess

[VVV] Self praise is no recommedation Mr. Day. :D:D:D:D

[Thevoiceofreason]

I accept that the NSW stewards sometimes have to officiate a long distance from the headquarters at Bankstown, but this is the 21st century. Surely they are capable of logging into their system remotely. So, whilst I sympathise I don't accept distance as an excuse.

Most of the other states have a typist not NSW and it is the travel time is not about logging on that part is simple I agree.

Last race say 10pm at least 45 minutes before the stewards finish results comments any half finished inquiries in most cases longer.

Travel to motel I hope you do not think they should write it then.

Now to put this in perspective first race is 6.30 the stewards have to be there about 2 hours before so that is 4.30pm and we will let them have some lunch on the way and book into their motel. five hours driving time plus an 1 hour for the other. So they left home at 10.30am

It is a long day and they have to travel back tomorrow. so it will be in excess of 17 hours in two days without thinking about the stewards report and lets say we were talking say Dubbo or Tamworth the second day after that meeting they will be on at another meeting with another trip hopefully not as long though.

Its difficult to drive and type at the same time and please remember we want them to do some form for the next meeting as well so they get the COT"S right.

[bbd]

I'm not saying I do, but even if I were to accept that VOR, why can't they get Friday Newcastle and Saturday Menangle up sometime before lunch on Monday (or sometimes Tuesday)?

[triplev123]

and please remember we want them to do some form for the next meeting as well so they get the COT"S right.

[VVV] VOR...you went one 'stanza' too far my friend. You had me right up until you wrote that. :rolleyes:

[allsmokedup]

You have a fantastic imagination TripleV123 or should i say.... Mr Paul seeing that we are basing identity on who we mention in threads Haha

There is only room for one steward on here and thats VOR

[Thevoiceofreason]

[VVV] VOR...you went one 'stanza' too far my friend. You had me right up until you wrote that. :rolleyes:

It was only for you.

[Thevoiceofreason]

You have a fantastic imagination TripleV123 or should i say.... Mr Paul seeing that we are basing identity on who we mention in threads Haha

There is only room for one steward on here and thats VOR

Only stating the facts

[Thevoiceofreason]

I'm not saying I do, but even if I were to accept that VOR, why can't they get Friday Newcastle and Saturday Menangle up sometime before lunch on Monday (or sometimes Tuesday)?

Ok I think I can answer that it has to be typed now with all due respect to some of the stipes there I am tipping at best they would be two finger typists like myself so it takes time, with two meetings on Fridays and Saturdays through the winter lunchtime Monday is ok to me and remember some of them are backing up at a meeting on Monday as well.

[triplev123]

You have a fantastic imagination TripleV123 or should i say.... Mr Paul seeing that we are basing identity on who we mention in threads Haha

There is only room for one steward on here and thats VOR



...and here he comes now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCO6smQrjJ8&feature=related ;)

[Flashing Red]

Ok I think I can answer that it has to be typed now with all due respect to some of the stipes there I am tipping at best they would be two finger typists like myself so it takes time, with two meetings on Fridays and Saturdays through the winter lunchtime Monday is ok to me and remember some of them are backing up at a meeting on Monday as well.

I laughed at the two fingered typist comment... me too, but the amount of typing I do I have built up to 70 wpm believe it or not! Can't imagine how quick I'd type if I used all my fingers.

I think VOR's posts are refreshing. There has been a lot of nameless, faceless crap put on these forums lately, it has kind of turned me off a little bit. Even if you don't agree with someone, I always appreciate "reason" (no pun intended). :)

[aussiebreno]

I laughed at the two fingered typist comment... me too, but the amount of typing I do I have built up to 70 wpm believe it or not! Can't imagine how quick I'd type if I used all my fingers.

I think VOR's posts are refreshing. There has been a lot of nameless, faceless crap put on these forums lately, it has kind of turned me off a little bit. Even if you don't agree with someone, I always appreciate "reason" (no pun intended). :)
Going to go test my 2 finger typing. My pointers are my key two but my Right hand thumb (space bar) and middle finger get a go as well as my left hand ring. 55wpm rings a bell from a few years back but have improved since.

[Flashing Red]

Going to go test my 2 finger typing. My pointers are my key two but my Right hand thumb (space bar) and middle finger get a go as well as my left hand ring. 55wpm rings a bell from a few years back but have improved since.

They have online typing tests. I needed to find out one day for a resume.... :) Good luck! lol!