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Messenger
03-31-2020, 07:08 PM
I am trying to think of the name of a horse that raced in the 90's
_ _ _ _ _ George
He was a NZ import
He mostly raced for the Manning stable
Like many of theirs he raced tough
He progressed far enough to be one of those horses making up the numbers in an Inter series
:confused:
aussiebreno
03-31-2020, 08:26 PM
Not quite meeting the criteria but Cyclone George?
aussiebreno
03-31-2020, 08:29 PM
You've also made me remember another beauty from the past, Orse M Wheels Bro!
Messenger
03-31-2020, 08:33 PM
Thanks but nah Breno
The Mannings definitely had him, he may have even started with smaller trainer David Manning. David had a good horse for our family called Dillon Dave and I think this horse was related but not directly.
I have tried searching via breeding lines but failed
aussiebreno
03-31-2020, 08:45 PM
Speedo George?
Messenger
03-31-2020, 08:56 PM
Maybe. He meets a lot of the criteria - decade, Mannings, Interdom
But I am still not sure - I didn't think the name was that catchy and I felt sure he was an import
I will let you know Breno, thanks for half putting me out of my misery
I will sound out a couple of people I have not been in contact with for yonks to confirm
Ray White
04-01-2020, 03:31 PM
Wasn't Le george back in the 60s
Showgrounds
04-01-2020, 03:47 PM
Back O Benachie. Iron horse, raced over 300 times and contested the 2001 ID series at Albion Park before going to North America.
From memory, its owners got into syndication in a big way but fell foul of the ATO in no small way.
Showgrounds
04-01-2020, 04:20 PM
Back O Benachie. Iron horse, raced over 300 times and contested the 2001 ID series at Albion Park before going to North America.
From memory, its owners got into syndication in a big way but fell foul of the ATO in no small way.
Correction: the head of the syndicate fell foul of the State Revenue Office, not the ATO. To the tune of around $10.1 million of collected state taxes that found their way to overseas betting accounts rather than the State. Only cost him 10 years with a non-parole period of 7. The Benachie Group syndicate (named after the horse) was Victoria's leading owner around 2000, 2001.
I am proud to possess two horse of the year trophies with full knowledge that it kept me in the poor house, but not the big house, to win them!
Messenger
04-01-2020, 04:56 PM
FBI Fernandez Brothers Incorporated - I think they even wore FBI caps
Showgrounds
04-01-2020, 05:39 PM
FBI Fernandez Brothers Incorporated - I think they even wore FBI caps
Correct. Other horses they purchased from NZ and raced (true, you couldn't make this up) were The Fraud Squad and Not Under Suspicion! Keith Fernandez ran an accounting business and his name would still be infamous had Bill Vlahos not upper the ante somewhat.
Now we have a Harness Racing Hall of Fame at Bendigo I was wondering if there is a suitable space available there to establish a Hall of Shame. This would be for the once lauded and championed who have fallen from grace, eg, the Benachie Group. I was thinking maybe the mop storage cupboard in the toilets would be appropriate but, alas, way too spatially disadvantaged for the extensive list of nominees!
Adaptor
04-01-2020, 09:16 PM
Correct. Other horses they purchased from NZ and raced (true, you couldn't make this up) were The Fraud Squad and Not Under Suspicion! Keith Fernandez ran an accounting business and his name would still be infamous had Bill Vlahos not upper the ante somewhat.
Now we have a Harness Racing Hall of Fame at Bendigo I was wondering if there is a suitable space available there to establish a Hall of Shame. This would be for the once lauded and championed who have fallen from grace, eg, the Benachie Group. I was thinking maybe the mop storage cupboard in the toilets would be appropriate but, alas, way too spatially disadvantaged for the extensive list of nominees!
Trevor,it could be located at the rear of the Lord's Raceway stables where the manure is dumped.
Showgrounds
04-01-2020, 10:07 PM
Trevor,it could be located at the rear of the Lord's Raceway stables where the manure is dumped.
Would need to be a VERY BIG area! There are two types of candidates: (a) the needy, and (b) the greedy. The majority of candidates would qualify as greedy. They are the calculating types who knew the consequences of their actions before they took them. The needy candidates would be the ones found guilty of incredulous misdemeanors, ie, incredibly stupid. I have yet to find stupidity as an offence under any Australian law (I guess our gaols are already overcrowded). The needy get dealt with under the rules of harness racing.
Given the lack of racing, perhaps too much time our hands, we should be reminiscing about some of the sport's "colourful" past and characters. Could be the basis of a book. Multiple volumes.
aussiebreno
04-01-2020, 10:13 PM
The problem is there is probably a bit of crossover with people who have Hall of Fame stats or stories but probably also have reasons to be in the Hall of Shame.
Showgrounds
04-02-2020, 10:52 PM
The problem is there is probably a bit of crossover with people who have Hall of Fame stats or stories but probably also have reasons to be in the Hall of Shame.
Yes, a revolving door between the two would be a necessity.
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